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Old 12-12-2006, 11:25 PM    (permalink
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I am singling Michigan out because they are the ones who are bitching about where they are...if they didn't want to be number 3 they should have beaten Ohio State...simple fact.

Second, you are right I would have been apalled if USC wasn't able to leap Michigan after being a mid season 1 loss team where as Michigan had just lost at the very end of the season and they lost to the same opponent they would have been playing in the title game.

I would be in favor of Michigan going to the title game if Ohio State wasn't going and they lost early than they did......hell, id even slightly consider giving Michigan a rematch had it had been a loss midway or beginning of the season to Ohio State but thats not how it went. They lost their final game (just like USC). Michigan and USC both deserve to be at the Rosebowl in my opinion. Michigan is not some special exception to the rule. thats BS
What rule? Where does the BCS say that you can't lose the last game of the season. Please link me to a site. You can't, because that's your opinion. Explain Oklahoma not winning their conference and getting smashed in the last game of the 2003 season, yet they got in. Florida lost to Florida State in the last game of the regular season in 1996. Guess which two teams played for the NC... Florida and Florida State. Not only is it not a rule, but there is precedent. You can have your own opinion and I'll have mine. But you are a hypocrite if you say you'd be upset if USC got screwed but Michigan fans aren't allowed to be upset. You may think that it is important to not lose late, I think a loss is a loss no matter when it come. You are more than free to have your own opinion, but don't tell us Michigan fans what our opinions should be and how we should feel.
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Wrong, I have watched Michigan outside of Ohio State...I havent been watching every single game but I have been following them.

Michigan owed their dominance to a pretty soft schedule. The only real big opponent they faced was Ohio State.
Beats ND on the road by 26. Beats wisconsin by 14 at home. Beats an underrated PSU team on the road pretty easily.

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ND and cal at home. Whoppee. You nearly lost to the state of washington, both games which i watched.

also what games have you watched?
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Cal, Oregon, Arkansas, Notre Dame...we probably played more ranked teams than Michigan did. Besides, im not making a case for USC to be number 2 right now but you on the other hand are pressing for Michigan
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what the hell does that mean? that was october! this is december...
My bad was on the phone and thought I saw, would be pissed if USC didn't leap Michigan after being equal.
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Cal, Oregon, Arkansas, Notre Dame...we probably played more ranked teams than Michigan did. Besides, im not making a case for USC to be number 2 right now but you on the other hand are pressing for Michigan
Cal and Oregon fell off pretty much so I wouldn't say they are impressive.

We played Notre Dame.

Nebraska and PSU are about even in my opinion.

Arkansas is your most impressive win in my view, as you destroyed them, but that was with out team Mcfadden.
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I think both teams deserve to be in the Rosebowl considering the circumstances
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Cal, Oregon, Arkansas, Notre Dame...we probably played more ranked teams than Michigan did. Besides, im not making a case for USC to be number 2 right now but you on the other hand are pressing for Michigan

Arkansas with a sub 50% McFadden. Congrats. Wisconsin is a better win than that.

Oregon? You seriously call that a quality win?
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Thats still more than Michigan did.
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oh yeah, I forgot about Nebraska...them too.

we played a hell of a lot harder schedule than Michigan. Your only real big opponent was Ohio State. I am almost positive USC would be Wisconsin so thats not really any arguement to make.
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Snuff - I laugh at your comment trying to call Cal a non threatening team
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Alright, let's put it this way, if tOSU loses to florida, are you michigan fans still gonna complain about not playing in the NC? What if you guys lose to USC, are you guys still gonna complain about not having been able to play in the NC? you guys aren't number 2 the rest of the world has got over it, so should you.

What is it you guys want? a plaque or trophy that says you guys are the 2nd best team in America? How bout instead of letting you guys have a rematch with tOSU, we just give you guys the NC?
I wanna give Ohio State the trophy and play Florida. That's what I want. Is that good enough for you? And don't for one second act like, if USC beat UCLA but Michigan got in the title game, you wouldn't be bitching. When people don't get what they want, they ***********... That's life for you. Don't you dare single us Michigan fans out as the only people who are complaining. Auburn fans bitched in 2004, USC fans bitched in 2003, Oregon fans bitched in 2001, Kansas State fans bitched in 1998, Miami fans bitched in 2000. See a trend? When people don't get what they want, they ***********. Get over it. If you don't like bitching, stop acknowledging people who ***********.
ive said repeatedly that i wouldnt mind if michigan played OSU in a rematch as long as USC plays florida, and that was way before they even played UCLA.

Basically what it comes down to is, what's done is done, we gotta get over it now. I do believe michigan deserved to be in the game, but they're not so what? we keep complaining?
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Snuff - I laugh at your comment trying to call Cal a non threatening team
They lost to Arizona, I know they should of won, but still they lost to Arizona. Arizona doesn't even have an offense.
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Oh, so great teams can't suffer upsets and still be great teams?
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Oh, so great teams can't suffer upsets and still be great teams?
They almost lost to Stanford.
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thats because they were down from losing to USC that kinda clinched their season for them - killed their PAC 10/Rosebowl hopes. cal is a very very good football team
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Cal is not good at all. PSU would whoop them and i can say that in confidence.

Also RW, we had the 3rd hardest schedule, in case you forgot.
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Cal is not good at all. PSU would whoop them and i can say that in confidence.

Also RW, we had the 3rd hardest schedule, in case you forgot.
dude, morelli sucks. Oh and also guys, we reached the threshold of stupidity by comparing each other's opponents.
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I can't even have a civil arguement with you if you can't atleast admit Cal is a good team.

Also, Cal would beat Penn State. And I don't care what people say Michigan had a soft schedule compared to Florida, its indisputable
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Cal is not good at all. PSU would whoop them and i can say that in confidence.

Also RW, we had the 3rd hardest schedule, in case you forgot.
dude, morelli sucks. Oh and also guys, we reached the threshold of stupidity by comparing each other's opponents.

the rest of the team is solid.
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I can't even have a civil arguement with you if you can't atleast admit Cal is a good team.

Also, Cal would beat Penn State. And I don't care what people say Michigan had a soft schedule compared to Florida, its indisputable
They aren't. Who have they beaten that resembles a good team? Penn State has not either but they have lost to pretty good teams
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um the quarterback position is kind of an important position for any team
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Cal has far more weapons than Penn State and they dominated their conference with the exception of losing to USC and an upset against Arizona which only happened because Cal was preparing for USC instead of Arizona. Cal has far more weapons on their team than Penn State
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um the quarterback position is kind of an important position for any team

Its not the only one, and teams can win with a bad QB (see USC)
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Cal has far more weapons than Penn State and they dominated their conference with the exception of losing to USC and an upset against Arizona which only happened because Cal was preparing for USC instead of Arizona. Cal has far more weapons on their team than Penn State

Besides Jackson and Lynch who?

Also PSU has 5 times the defense of Cal. They would shut them down. Cal is not deserving of a top 25 rank, and they will be handled by TAMU
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Yeah, Booty is a bad quarterback thats why his stats are almost identical to Leinart's first year stats. Booty may have things he needs to work on but thats an ignorant statement.

Second, why are we even talking about USC, the whole arguement was that Michigan isn't number 2
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