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Old 06-18-2007, 03:03 AM    (permalink
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Brett Farve is not even close to being the Icon of present day NFL, much less of All Time.


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which is why most people who don't watch a lot of football don't know how to pronounce his name. because he's the "face of the game". right?
I think the history of this poll makes a strong case in answering the question for this thread, "Who is the NFL's One Major Icon"? Even when his team finished 4-12 2 years ago, Favre ranked 1st among nfl players chosen as fan favorite.. That says a lot. He likely will be chosen 1st this year also, considering its probably his last year. The nfl programming will be all over it. Manning will take over after that. Especially when he starts breaking most of Favre and Marino's records.

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"Other athletes who make it into this year’s Top 10 list of favorite sports stars (after Tiger Woods, Derek Jeter and Michael Jordan) are Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre (No. 4), Cleveland Cavaliers star LeBron James (No. 5), race car driver Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (No. 6), the San Antonio Spurs’ Tim Duncan (No. 7), Indianapolis Colts’ quarterback Peyton Manning (No. 8), LA Lakers star Kobe Bryant (No. 9), New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (No. 10). Both Peyton Manning and Tom Brady return to the list after dropping off last year while Tim Duncan makes his first appearance ever. On the other side, Shaquille O’Neal, Jeff Gordon and Barry Bonds have all dropped off the list this year"


Brett Favre, ranked higher than Manning or brady every time since either of the 2 have even been ranked at all, except once (manning ranked 2nd in 2005). Favre has ranked 1st among nfl players for at least the last 2 years and consistently ranked at or near top for the last 11.

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I think Manning is on his way due to the amount of media he appears on...I think he needs a win a few more super bowls to truly claim the tag.
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Brett Favre due to his longevity. But in a year or two it will be Brodie Croyle
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There really isn't a "Ruthanian" figure in the NFL as of right now for a few reasons (or at least my belief).

1-Baseball was really king up until, I'd say right before the Steelers era of domination in the 1970s? (That's at least my guess, it could be earlier/later; I think "The Greatest Game Ever Played" put it on the map, and Super Bowl 3 made it very relevant. Compared to how baseball was popular when guys like Cy Young, Christy Matthewson, Shoeless Joe, Ruth, etc. were playing (late 1800s to now); it's had a shorter shelf life by comparision. Football is really just starting to branch out globally too.

2-It's harder for football, by a stats perspective, to dominate as compared to baseball. Of course we take pride in Johnny U's 47-game TD streak but it's not as nationally known as say Joe DiMaggio's 56-gamer. Same with Marino's (and now Manning's) TD record rather than Maris (then McGwire, Bonds) HR records. Of course, the steroid allegations have also taken those records to new heights. It keeps thrusting it back in the media.

3-Baseball survived through the Great Depression. It was (to my knowledge and recollection of books) the main source of entertainment back then. Ruth called his shot off of Charlie Root, which is part of the legacy he left that continues to this day. Baseball went through WWII and some of the game's greatest icons (Ted Williams included) actually were in the military. Baseball was the escape.

Football hasn't really gone through anything based on how long it's been in terms of national attention, and it's shelf life. We could be in the beginning of the new thing. In the year 2107, they could be talking about how "that Peyton Manning (or Brady, Bush, Calvin Johnson, Darren McFadden, Jimmy Clausen, Terrelle Pryor; it goes on and on) really were special".

If I had to guess, I'd say Dan Marino but football is really still a regional thing. I'd guarantee most people in my area know Donovan McNabb but probably never heard of Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith or Dan Marino.
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As far as the all-time "faces" of sports leagues...

MLB: Babe Ruth
NHL: Wayne Gretzky
NBA: Michael Jordan
NFL: Mike Ditka

I found it really hard for football. While Ditka probably isn't the single greatest player or single greatest coach in football history he is still who I consider to be the "face." Ditka simply IS football. He was a hardnosed player, coach, and just person in general. He is certainly well known as a Hall of Fame player and a coach of the Superbowl winning Bears' team, and he of course had the Superfans on SNL.

Ditka.

(And this is from a Packer fan)
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Probably Lombardi. The trophy is named for him and he is the most popular coach and appears to be the face of the NFL.
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IDK if someone said this already because I didnt read the whole thread, but part of the reason I think there is no "major" icon in football like other sports is because the longetivy in football is shorter than in other sports.
Jordan - 15yrs
Gretzky - 20yrs
Ruth - 22yrs
Also, football is such a team sport. In basketball, one guy can drop 80 in one night. In baseball one player can have 3 HRs in one game. In Hockey, you can score 3 goals in one night. With football, you can't pass a TD with one player and you can't run for a TD without a line blocking for you.
It's the not the players, it's just the way the game is and I like it that way.
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My idol = Kellen Winslow Jr.

What everyone thinks of when you say NFL? Probably Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.

Who it should be? Jim Brown of course ;)

Honestly though, Lombardi = NFL.
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My idol = Kellen Winslow Jr.

What everyone thinks of when you say NFL? Probably Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.

Who it should be? Jim Brown of course ;)

Honestly though, Lombardi = NFL.
"What everyone thinks of when you say NFL? Probably Peyton Manning or Tom Brady".

Not according to this long runnining national poll. Its consistantly Favre, who has been chosen 1st among nfl players for at least the last 2 years and has consistantly been picked at or near the top fot the last 11 years.
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There can only be one nfl icon and the is madden cover boy ray lewis, he led his team a superbowl won mvp its easy for peyton manning to win mvp on offense but on defense it takes twice the work he is the godfather of the nfl, when chad johnson was taking his celebrations to far ray lewis called him and he stop. he is the greatest the nfl icon.
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My choices would be

Brett Favre
Reggie White
Jerry Rice
or Johnny Unitas
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Madden is I think a huge NFL icon. I don't think it can be one player really because they can only be around for like 20 years MAX. John Madden has been around for a long time as a coach and analyst and even has his name on the NFL's video game.

Vince Lombardi would come close but he was a long time ago
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Manning or Brady

Manning is in the commercials, Brady is the 'golden boy'
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Manning is in the commercials, Brady is the 'golden boy'
Not Tom Brady I know lots of people that hate him or think he is overrated.
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As someone overseas I can probably best gauge how they are reflected outside the US where regional bias will have an affect on who people think.

For basketball it was Jordan, still is Jordan and always will be Jordan. Shaq is easily the 2nd biggest, most people in Australia dont even know who LeBron is and couldn't care less. Basketball is a dieing sport.

Hockey it's Gretzky, not that many people care at all, but Gretzky is easily the man in hockey.

Baseball is Babe Ruth. Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey Jr are the other well known guys. Baseball like basketball was most popular here in the mid 90's and has basically fallen off the map since, even more so than basketball.

For football its Marino, Rice, Elway, Montana and Emmitt. Barry Sanders is also popular. The sport isnt big by any means over here, but those are the names the average person could name.
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At first I was really surprised to see Farve ranked higher than Manning/Brady in that poll. But it makes sense when you think about how people perseive them, Farve has that average Joe look that people can relate to. Golden Boy Brady and perfectionistic Manning definitly don't have that.
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At first I was really surprised to see Farve ranked higher than Manning/Brady in that poll. But it makes sense when you think about how people perseive them, Farve has that average Joe look that people can relate to. Golden Boy Brady and perfectionistic Manning definitly don't have that.
I agree that the likability factor helps him in the poll. But his acomplishments over the last 16 years are nothing to sneeze at. The team has been on the decline for a while and Favres receivers have been blah for several years so his stats havent been to impressive. I thought that would make him drop down in a poll like this, but that average joe personality, his devotion to the game and that backyard style of play is what fans enjoy. He puts on a heck of a show.

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I say football, I think Patriots (well, outside of the Falcons). So, I would say Tom Brady. Then again, I am a new fan to the game.

Basketball- Jordan. LeBron will be there (hopefully) one day.

Hockey- Gretzky

Baseball- Maybe because I'm a relatively new sports fan (and just started watching baseball on a consistent basis this year) but I think Hank Aaron.

Golf- Tiger Woods

Tennis- Roger Federer

Swimming- Michael Phelps

I'd say those are the dominant athletes of today, especially Woods, Federer, and Phelps. All three will go down as (possibly) the top players to play in their respective sports. LeBron (and Peyton and maybe Brady and Bonds) has a shot at that too.
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