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ESPN ran a poll; 'who should win OROTY,' Vince Young was in first.

MJ-D was in last. :roll:
Eh, that was a given. Vince Young is going to run away with the award.

NFL.com ran the same poll and MJD was third out of five last I saw, behind Reggie Bush.
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ESPN ran a poll; 'who should win OROTY,' Vince Young was in first.

MJ-D was in last. :roll:
Eh, that was a given. Vince Young is going to run away with the award.

NFL.com ran the same poll and MJD was third out of five last I saw, behind Reggie Bush.
Hester was 2nd baby! :D

But yea, Drew being in last was ridiculous.
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Sure Hester has been great but he's been good as a return man. Young has been good at QB with a weak team around him.

Young definately deserves it before Hester.
and realistically, hester would likely have had to have made an impact at an offensive or defensive position. i think it would have to be an awful weak year to give it to a return specialist, no matter how amazing he's been.
:roll: (just for you njx)

Well what if a return specialist gets a TD on every return? Would that be an exception?
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If Fred Taylor wasnt in Jaxsonville MJD would be ROY.and noone would argue.
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Sure Hester has been great but he's been good as a return man. Young has been good at QB with a weak team around him.

Young definately deserves it before Hester.
and realistically, hester would likely have had to have made an impact at an offensive or defensive position. i think it would have to be an awful weak year to give it to a return specialist, no matter how amazing he's been.
:roll: (just for you njx)

Well what if a return specialist gets a TD on every return? Would that be an exception?
If that happen, then i would say yes, that would be ALOT of TD's. :shock:
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Reggie Bush doesnt even deserve to be on the poll.
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If Fred Taylor wasnt in Jaxsonville MJD would be ROY.and noone would argue.
Same could be said of Rhodes and Addai.

And Dillon and Maroney.

And McAllister and Bush.
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If Hester wins it, I'll stop watching football all together.
Being a Browns fan should have done that years ago.
Nice burn
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I would know, I'm from Akron, am friends with Charlie, and it pains me to watch the Browns as well. Mostly just because they are the only option on television and are pathetic half the time, and just painful enough to lose at the end the other half.
Didn't you play with Charlie at one time? And if you know him, let's see you get a pic.


You just want me to run up next to him, take a picture, and download it on the internet?

I don't talk to him during the football season much, but if I remember I'll get one once it's over.
Keak used to do it all the time.
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Really? He's scored 7 times and has close to 1100 yards from scrimmage...
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Really? He's scored 7 times and has close to 1100 yards from scrimmage...
Those are some solid numbers, but aren't nearly as good as the numbers Mo Drew has put up. If no defensive players are on the list, then Reggie Bush should not be on the list either, just the most elite prospects for the award. Reggie has been good, but by no stretch of the imagination has he been the best.
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Vince Young 35%
Maurice Jones-Drew 17%
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Matt Leinart 1%
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Every year, there are a two or three rookie RB's that come out and make a big splash from the get-go.

You'll also get one or two sensational rookie KR/PR guys almost every year, and usually one or two WR's that really stand out.

But how often does a rookie QB come in and really make a difference, performance-wise? Big Ben did it a couple years ago; before that....well, let's just say it had been a while since we'd seen a rookie QB who was good.

In my mind, when a rookie picks up the game's most difficult position and his performance legitimately warrants OROY consideration, he deserves special consideration....extra credit, if you will.

I'm a VY guy myself, but I believe Leinart is getting far too little recognition for what he's doing on a bad Cardinals team. It'll be a while before we can make a definitive assessment of Jay Cutler, but I'd say it looks like all three of them are going to be exactly who we thought they were.

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i think now Devin Hester has to be seriously considered
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I can't understand why no defensive player is considered. Don't get me wrong all those guys have done good things, but have they all done it on a consistent basis? No not all of them have. The one's that have haven't put up those great a #'s. If you were looking for a real list it should be these guys.
M. D. Jones RB- Jags. He's been putting up yards and scores throughout the yr. while sharing the load. The guy is the real deal.

M. Colston WR- N.O. Just solid throughout the season. Missed a few games, but should still put up solid #'s.

D. Ryans LB- Texans- Are you kidding me? The guy leads the league in tackles and solo tackles. Allow me to re-iterate that. LEADS THE LEAGUE, not his division, not his conference. In addition to that he's got multiple sacks, PD's, just amazing. He's played on this level on a consistent basis and just doesn't stop. Don't get me wrong I understand it's unlikely he'll win it, but to not even be mentioned is like a slap in the face to me.
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I can't understand why no defensive player is considered. Don't get me wrong all those guys have done good things, but have they all done it on a consistent basis? No not all of them have. The one's that have haven't put up those great a #'s. If you were looking for a real list it should be these guys.
M. D. Jones RB- Jags. He's been putting up yards and scores throughout the yr. while sharing the load. The guy is the real deal.

M. Colston WR- N.O. Just solid throughout the season. Missed a few games, but should still put up solid #'s.

D. Ryans LB- Texans- Are you kidding me? The guy leads the league in tackles and solo tackles. Allow me to re-iterate that. LEADS THE LEAGUE, not his division, not his conference. In addition to that he's got multiple sacks, PD's, just amazing. He's played on this level on a consistent basis and just doesn't stop. Don't get me wrong I understand it's unlikely he'll win it, but to not even be mentioned is like a slap in the face to me.
Sad but defensive players, never get the love when it comes to ROY and the same can be said for MVP also.
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I'd still give it to Marques Colston. He's conistently put up great numbers week after week. And, despite getting hurt, will easily surpass 1,000 yards.

Hester is a returner. He can only have so much impact on the game. Also I'm not really sure he qualifies as an offensive player.

I really like MJD and he'd probably be second on my ballot. One of the most fun players to watch and can impact the game in so many ways.

Vince Young as a whole has very mediocre numbers, and to be fair, he has had a total of 3 good games against 3 bad defenses. Sorry but I'm just still not sold on the guy.
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The fact that Bush is even in the running is a ridiculous thought to me. He's had what now...two good games. Lets look at his 4 TD performance...total rushing yards...38. Maybe he should be more worried about running effectively and less about breaking big time screen passes.

1.Young/Drew
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3.Colston

Those are the 4 top performers and imo jones drew should get it since he is up there and had previously NO media hype whatsoever.

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I think Marcus McNeil deserves some recognition, but he has no shot. No defensive player, or O-Lineman has a shot against the hollywood-esque aura that surrounds the "skill position" players.
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I would honestly give it to MJD at this point.
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Vince Young as a whole has very mediocre numbers, and to be fair, he has had a total of 3 good games against 3 bad defenses. Sorry but I'm just still not sold on the guy.
One thing he does though...WIN. Thats all that matters. Yes Bush has the stats...but the saints are very sound offensively...

Look at VY...he has no support. Henry is a decent back, but nothing special...Bennett is not a true #1 guy. He has no blocking...yet...he is 6-4...With that team, 6-4 is incredible. The only stat I'd care about is the number of victories put up in the win column. Terry Bradshaw never had that great of stats...but the guy won games. I think it's down to him or bush. Bush has come on strong as of late...but VY is somethin else
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Don't worry Vince Young WILL win.
Now if he deserves to is another argument, and I definitely think he deserves to win
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