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Old 06-21-2007, 04:48 PM    (permalink
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Chiefs RB Larry Johnson asked by the KC Star if he's prepared for a long holdout? "I'm prepared," Johnson said matter-of-factly. Speculation has centered on Johnson seeking a contract that falls between the deals given LaDainian Tomlinson ($21 million in guarantees) and Peyton Manning ($35 million in guarantees).
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He's crazy if he thinks they're going to give him that kind of money. I could see maybe 10-15 million in guaranteed but thats just ridiculous.
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They should trade him for a first rounder ASAP.
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They should trade him for a first rounder ASAP.
I doubt they'd even get that much.
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Don't get me wrong, LJ is a very good back, but he's delusional if he thinks he deserves the kind of money that LT and Peyton are getting.
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I doubt they'd even get that much.
The Pack were about to give a 1st and 4th.
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The Pack were about to give a 1st and 4th.
Those where rumors at best, because there is no way a GM like Ted Thompson would give that much for a running back who really only has 2 good years left.
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Only has two years left LOL we ain't talking about Fred Taylor LJ stays on the field when he is nicked up the guy has only started one full year in the NFL.
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Good for him. KC has asked him to carry the team on his legs last year, they gave him a ridiculous workload the year before in the hopes of making the playoffs, and now they don't want to step up? Screw them, don't show up until after Week 11 and then become an unrestricted free agent.

Once that happens, either the Chiefs will pay him what he deserves as a franchise tagged player, or he'll hit the open market and get the long-term deal he deserves.
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Only has two years left LOL we ain't talking about Fred Taylor LJ stays on the field when he is nicked up the guy has only started one full year in the NFL.
LMAO @ these people who think he is already done!
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Old 06-21-2007, 05:19 PM    (permalink
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Well it looks like the Chiefs are poised for another season on LJ's back if they are going anywhere. Might as well pay him, he's the only threat on offense.
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Screw them, don't show up until after Week 11 and then become an unrestricted free agent.
He can't if he does that he can't void the last two years of his deal he has to play this year to void them that is how they worked his rookie deal.
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Thanks for the update, Splat. At least he'll be there from Week 1 on, then.
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Those where rumors at best, because there is no way a GM like Ted Thompson would give that much for a running back who really only has 2 good years left.
Only has two good years left? Your delusional.

He started one year in college and one in the NFL. He still has very little mileage on him. He is in the best shape of his life and should be able to play at a high level until he is 32 or 33.
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Only has two good years left? Your delusional.

He started one year in college and one in the NFL. He still has very little mileage on him. He is in the best shape of his life and should be able to play at a high level until he is 32 or 33.
People think that this 400 carry season was a death wish.
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Well it looks like the Chiefs are poised for another season on LJ's back if they are going anywhere. Might as well pay him, he's the only threat on offense.
Tony Gonzalez?

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I know people have heard of him.

We also have some good backups at runningback with Michael Bennett and Kolby Smith. Eddie Kennison is still a dependable wide receiver and we have several young talented wide receivers with Dwayne Bowe, Jeff Webb, and Chris Hannon. Hannon is probably the fastest guy on the field and is catching everything that is thrown his way.

I guess I could say the Skins only weapon is Clinton Portis.
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People think that this 400 carry season was a death wish.
People can think all they want.

Who cares if he had 400 carries. If he had 50 less carries which would have put him down around 360 carries would that 50 less carries have magically extended his career past this year?

People act like there is some magical barrier at 400 carries and once a player hits that barrier it causes their body to fall apart.

Bullcrap.

LJ has far less wear and tear than other runningbacks like LT, Shaun Alexander, and Edgerrin James.

LT had 5,200+ yards in college as well as six straight seasons of 400 or more touches if you count receptions.

Shaun Alexander and Edgerrin James have both had seasons shortened or ended by injuries.

Larry Johnson has never had a major injury and he has only started two full seasons between college and the NFL.
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People can think all they want.

Who cares if he had 400 carries. If he had 50 less carries which would have put him down around 360 carries would that 50 less carries have magically extended his career past this year?

People act like there is some magical barrier at 400 carries and once a player hits that barrier it causes their body to fall apart.

Bullcrap.

LJ has far less wear and tear than other runningbacks like LT, Shaun Alexander, and Edgerrin James.

LT had 5,200+ yards in college as well as six straight seasons of 400 or more touches if you count receptions.

Shaun Alexander and Edgerrin James have both had seasons shortened or ended by injuries.

Larry Johnson has never had a major injury and he has only started two full seasons between college and the NFL.
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Don't get me wrong, LJ is a very good back, but he's delusional if he thinks he deserves the kind of money that LT and Peyton are getting.
With the way contracts are rising it is kind of like inflation. 100$ in 1950 is worth much more than 100$ today. Similarly, LJ will likely get a larger contract than LT although it is not as big a chunk of the salary cap as it once was. Heck, Shaun Alexander got a contract larger than LT's and he's not as good as LJ or LT.

The Chiefs don't report to training camp until July 27th. The Chiefs have traded contract proposals multiple times during that time and I truly believe they will get a contract done before training camp.
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With the way contracts are rising it is kind of like inflation. 100$ in 1950 is worth much more than 100$ today. Similarly, LJ will likely get a larger contract than LT although it is not as big a chunk of the salary cap as it once was. Heck, Shaun Alexander got a contract larger than LT's and he's not as good as LJ or LT.

The Chiefs don't report to training camp until July 27th. The Chiefs have traded contract proposals multiple times during that time and I truly believe they will get a contract done before training camp.
Yes we all known inflation exists but over a 5 year period don't expect to much of a drastic jump. LT was also much younger when he got his.
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People can think all they want.

Who cares if he had 400 carries. If he had 50 less carries which would have put him down around 360 carries would that 50 less carries have magically extended his career past this year?

People act like there is some magical barrier at 400 carries and once a player hits that barrier it causes their body to fall apart.
No one is saying that 400 is some magical number that will hurt your career, but the fact is that of the four other backs to do that in history, only one was able to continue playing at a high level afterwards. Now since Larry was so fresh before this, his body will probably handle it differently and I don't agree that he only has two good seasons left; but to think that having the most carries in a single NFL season won't have any effect at all on him is illogical.
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and the fact that LJ runs with his shoulders high he takes more damage than backs like LT and Edge

but I believe he will be good until he is at least 32

they should just pay him
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well i don't think Nate Clements helped this situation.

these contract holdouts are becoming such a pain in the ass and so repetitive. when will they just sign shorter contracts or just play what they signed for. i understand the fact that they may deserve more because of market value and such, and that many players are underpaid, but they should honor the contract or sign a shorter deal to begin with.


I don't think LJ wearing down is something they are concerned with right now, because at worst he has another 4 years in him IMO. how long a deal is he looking for??
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As a Packer fan id be willing to trade for him. I still think hell be a top 5 back for next year and most likely a top 3 back. He deserves the money for how much the Chiefs rely on him. If they dont want to give him the money he deserves then send him to a team that wouldnt mind spending the extra money for him...like say GB :D
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and the fact that LJ runs with his shoulders high he takes more damage than backs like LT and Edge
This is true I agree 100% but LJ knows that he has to tweak his running some he has all ready said in a interview that he is going to work on making people miss and going out of bounds more. That being said LJ is still going to be LJ he will still be a tough runner just smarter about when to lower the boom and when not to.
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