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Old 06-25-2007, 07:19 PM    (permalink
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Even though at 4, Marvin is to low on that list IMO. So is Holt.
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Jackson and Clayton on that list makes the list a bad list...

From what I've heard, 49'rs coaches are already ticked off with Jackson and are very unimpressed.
Where did you hear that? It seems they are upset with lelie, not jackson.
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Awful list. Roy williams at 3? Why is Harrison behind him? Mark Clayton shouldnt be on the list, hes not even a 1000 yard receiver. Torry Holt at 12 is a complete joke. Hes a top 5 WR. And yeah, Calvin Johnson hasnt played a down yet...
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Awful list. Roy williams at 3? Why is Harrison behind him? Mark Clayton shouldnt be on the list, hes not even a 1000 yard receiver. Torry Holt at 12 is a complete joke. Hes a top 5 WR. And yeah, Calvin Johnson hasnt played a down yet...
PAY ATTENTION. It goes by what he thinks the guys will produce not how they're ranked according to talent.

Geez.

Roy-1310 yards

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Awful list. Roy williams at 3? Why is Harrison behind him? Mark Clayton shouldnt be on the list, hes not even a 1000 yard receiver. Torry Holt at 12 is a complete joke. Hes a top 5 WR. And yeah, Calvin Johnson hasnt played a down yet...
Clayton could definetly get 1,000 yards, I think he can be a top 25 reciever but not ahead of Colston.
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Nice to see Driver getting respected.
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Any list of WR's that doesn't have Holt in the top 10 is completely ridiculous. Almost every list I've seen has him in the top 5 at least, a number 12 ranking is just stupid. There is no way he should be below Johnson, Driver, Walker, Boldin, Moss, or Wayne. I would personally have him no lower than 5 ever, that means above TO. But that's okay, Holt has always been disrespected by analyst. They always mention him on their way to getting a boner for some other WR, usually Steve Smith.
Even as a Niner fan I can agree with you and attest to this. T Big Game Holt has got serious game. I seriously think that he and Bruce were the biggest reasons both Warner and Bulger had so much success with the big plays.
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Calvin Johnson haven't even played a game!
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Awful list. Roy williams at 3? Why is Harrison behind him? Mark Clayton shouldnt be on the list, hes not even a 1000 yard receiver. Torry Holt at 12 is a complete joke. Hes a top 5 WR. And yeah, Calvin Johnson hasnt played a down yet...
Harrison has peyton manning throwing to him... Roy plays for the lions.

TO needs to be lower. Its his job to catch balls and he drops some easy ones. he is also a team/coach killer and a bad locker room influence.
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Harrison has peyton manning throwing to him... Roy plays for the lions.

TO needs to be lower. Its his job to catch balls and he drops some easy ones. he is also a team/coach killer and a bad locker room influence.
Which has nothing to do with this list, do people read anymore?
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Even though at 4, Marvin is to low on that list IMO.
I'm glad I didn't have to say it. Marvin was the ONLY WR in the NFL last season to be in the top 5 in receptions (3rd), receiving yards (2nd), and receiving TDs (2nd), and he was top 3 in each category. It's not like a lot of that is a rare occurence for him either. Since 1999, Marvin has ranked no lower than 4th (2003) in any given season in TD receptions, has been out of the top 10 in receiving yards once in that time (2004), and out of the top 10 in receptions twice in that span (2004, 2005). Unless he thinks the Colts offense is going to regress or Gonzalez is going to make a HUGE impact, his ratings of both Harrison and Wayne are pretty low, as they were definitely 2 of the 4 best WRs statisically last year, and arguably the two best (Owens has a strong case against Wayne, Holt has a lesser one).
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Jackson and Clayton on that list makes the list a bad list...

From what I've heard, 49'rs coaches are already ticked off with Jackson and are very unimpressed.
Mark Clayton is better then every wide receiver on your roster combined. I like Clayton's inclusion on this list and after this season he should be higher. Although the lower rankings of Torry Holt and gasp Hines Ward disturbed me, also Plexiglass should be a bit lower because with no running game I doubt he will have a very productive year.
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Where did you hear that? It seems they are upset with lelie, not jackson.
I saw somewhere that the Seahawks were upset with Darrell Jackson and the 49'rs are the same way.

"Darrell Jackson, WR, San Francisco

Sure, he fills a hole, but if he were all that valuable, do you think Seattle would've given up on him? When I visited the Seahawks last summer, coaches were frustrated trying to get him on the field. I think the same thing will happen in San Francisco. Jackson is talented; he's just not tough. "

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10234368

So the post proves you right, I read it wrong.

I just don't think Jackson is a good receiver, I've never liked him at receiver and I don't think he will do good there.
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Driver is very underrated, he's right where he belongs. Randy Moss should be higher. Where the heck is Joey Galloway??!!!???!?!?!! He's better than half of the guys on that list right now at age 34 or whatever, and had better seasons than most of those guys last year with freaking Bruce Gradkowski throwing to him behind a bad OLine with no RB. And he's probably one of the 5 fastest WRs in the NFL still.
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Any list of WR's that doesn't have Holt in the top 10 is completely ridiculous. Almost every list I've seen has him in the top 5 at least, a number 12 ranking is just stupid. There is no way he should be below Johnson, Driver, Walker, Boldin, Moss, or Wayne. I would personally have him no lower than 5 ever, that means above TO. But that's okay, Holt has always been disrespected by analyst. They always mention him on their way to getting a boner for some other WR, usually Steve Smith.
Blatant Homerism...you are bashing Boldin (who if I'm not mistaken was what, 2nd in the league in receptions 2 years ago, and was over 1200 yards last year...) Moss, who is arguably still the best WR in the game, and is whenever he wants to prove a point, lets hope he doesn't up in NE, Walker who even after a knee injury had nearly 1100 yards teaming with a rookie QB most of the way, Driver, who is one of the hardest workers in the NFL and constantly is putting up stats that no one should scoff at. I mean Holt had a good year last year for a bad team, and has been consistent, but at some point his production has to drop off, he's getting up there in terms of a WR. 9 years in the league already. Not saying he's not a very solid WR, but he's not someone who's going to get a lot of praise anymore because of his team.

He's still a solid player and really one of the better WRs in the league, but I think after you look at his last 4 years of production, it's hard to believe he can put those numbers up again...
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Blatant Homerism...you are bashing Boldin (who if I'm not mistaken was what, 2nd in the league in receptions 2 years ago, and was over 1200 yards last year...) Moss, who is arguably still the best WR in the game, and is whenever he wants to prove a point, lets hope he doesn't up in NE, Walker who even after a knee injury had nearly 1100 yards teaming with a rookie QB most of the way, Driver, who is one of the hardest workers in the NFL and constantly is putting up stats that no one should scoff at. I mean Holt had a good year last year for a bad team, and has been consistent, but at some point his production has to drop off, he's getting up there in terms of a WR. 9 years in the league already. Not saying he's not a very solid WR, but he's not someone who's going to get a lot of praise anymore because of his team.

He's still a solid player and really one of the better WRs in the league, but I think after you look at his last 4 years of production, it's hard to believe he can put those numbers up again...
Moss is not arguably the best WR in the NFL at all. He is talented, but he doesn't use it, that isn't an excuse for him to gain rankings. Culpepper has talent and had an amazing season 3 years ago, is he still arguably a top 3 QB? Whenever he wants to prove a point? Being the best WR for a day doesn't mean much if you aren't going to be the entire season.
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Originally Posted by WinslowBodden View Post
Jackson and Clayton on that list makes the list a bad list...

From what I've heard, 49'rs coaches are already ticked off with Jackson and are very unimpressed.
What??? lol

Jackson is still recovering from turf-toe. He wanted to participate in the OTA's, but the coaching staff wants him to be fully rehabbed for Training camp.

They said he has been a good presence in the locker room and has attended all OTA's even though he couldn't play.

We'll see how he looks in TC, but as of now he has done what was expected.
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