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Old 07-08-2007, 10:56 AM    (permalink
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i was once sitting watching sorgi play and he threw a pass so hard it came out of the TV and knocked me off my chair
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i was once sitting watching sorgi play and he threw a pass so hard it came out of the TV and knocked me off my chair
Not surprising one bit. That's what Jim Sorgi does. Jim Sorgi has been known to throw a ball so hard that even God, a great WR in his own right, dropped.
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Not surprising one bit. That's what Jim Sorgi does. Jim Sorgi has been known to throw a ball so hard that even God, a great WR in his own right, dropped.
seeing as god = jim sorgi

its amazing he managed to run ahead of his own rocket like pass
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Jim Sorgi was originally cast in "Independance Day" and was going to throw rocket passes at Aliens.

Unfortunately.. He really had to save the world... Thats why Will Smith got a job.
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I agree with #1.No LJ= KC being screwed LJ is the most valuable member on the team
First let me start off by saying that LJ is a very valuable player and without him the chiefs might not win a single game. However the way i see it the Chiefs dont have any chance to win the AFC West this year, not with the chargers and broncos standing in their way. Now dont get me wrong mircales do happen, but i wouldnt bet on a bench player like huard leading the team to the playoffs. I thought that an indispensible palyer is one that without him his team does not win whereas if they do have him his team succeeds. But the way i see it, the chiefs either lose with him on the team, or lose without him. Now as far as next year goes, LJ isnt even close to the most indispensible player in the league because it doesnt really matter if he plays or not the teams gonna lose. not to mention hes holding out for more money and has had some problems with his attitude. I'm sure everyone remembers coach vermeil calling a baby or something like that just because LJ was complaining about not getting carries when they had priest holmes.

In my opinion a real indespensible player is someone like drew brees. The saints have a good core but without that guy to run the team they go from super bowl contender to losing record. Hopefully i've completed this post in a concise enough manner so i pass the post-police's thorough inspection.
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First let me start off by saying that LJ is a very valuable player and without him the chiefs might not win a single game. However the way i see it the Chiefs dont have any chance to win the AFC West this year, not with the chargers and broncos standing in their way. Now dont get me wrong mircales do happen, but i wouldnt bet on a bench player like huard leading the team to the playoffs. I thought that an indispensible palyer is one that without him his team does not win whereas if they do have him his team succeeds. But the way i see it, the chiefs either lose with him on the team, or lose without him. Now as far as next year goes, LJ isnt even close to the most indispensible player in the league because it doesnt really matter if he plays or not the teams gonna lose. not to mention hes holding out for more money and has had some problems with his attitude. I'm sure everyone remembers coach vermeil calling a baby or something like that just because LJ was complaining about not getting carries when they had priest holmes.

In my opinion a real indespensible player is someone like drew brees. The saints have a good core but without that guy to run the team they go from super bowl contender to losing record. Hopefully i've completed this post in a concise enough manner so i pass the post-police's thorough inspection.

They may lose games with him in their. But the games the win are directly correlated with his BEING on the field. The loss of Trent Green freed up 7 mil. Herm likes LJ, likes the beastliness of LJ. Lj was called a baby by whom? The coach that is not their. HE HAD an attitude problem when he was the 2nd man. Now he is the 1st man. Charecter issues are just blown out of porportion about LJ.

LJ's Agent: "I canít say that we are close to a deal now, but Larry wants to be a Chief for life and the Chiefs are a great organization, and I am optimistic that we will come to an agreement."

But yes he is the most valuable member to one team.
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They may lose games with him in their. But the games the win are directly correlated with his BEING on the field. The loss of Trent Green freed up 7 mil. Herm likes LJ, likes the beastliness of LJ. Lj was called a baby by whom? The coach that is not their. HE HAD an attitude problem when he was the 2nd man. Now he is the 1st man. Charecter issues are just blown out of porportion about LJ.

LJ's Agent: "I canít say that we are close to a deal now, but Larry wants to be a Chief for life and the Chiefs are a great organization, and I am optimistic that we will come to an agreement."

But yes he is the most valuable member to one team.
I don't buy it. Runningbacks are a dime a dozen in the NFL and they can be replaced easily.

Quarterbacks are the most indespensable player on the majority of teams. Peyton Manning is easily more important to the Colts than LJ is to the Chiefs.
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I don't buy it. Runningbacks are a dime a dozen in the NFL and they can be replaced easily.

Quarterbacks are the most indespensable player on the majority of teams. Peyton Manning is easily more important to the Colts than LJ is to the Chiefs.
Moses you are 100% right, quarterbacks are the most indespenable part of an NFL team. Do the Colts win a Super bowl without Peyton Manning???? Do the Patriots have 3 Super Bowls without Tom Brady??? Do the Eagles go to all those NFC Championship Games without McNabb??? No, No, and No
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Moses you are 100% right, quarterbacks are the most indespenable part of an NFL team. Do the Colts win a Super bowl without Peyton Manning???? Do the Patriots have 3 Super Bowls without Tom Brady??? Do the Eagles go to all those NFC Championship Games without McNabb??? No, No, and No
Could the Bears get to the Super Bowl with some one other than Grossman? Do the Ravens win the superbowl without Trent Dilfer? yes and yes. Also look how well the Chargers did last year after replacing Drew Brees.

I'll agree that because of all the responsibility a QB has, in most cases they are the most indespensable. However, the three teams you listed had offenses built around the QB. An elite running back cannot be underrated. The 49ers wouldn't have won even 5 games last year if it wasn't for Frank Gore, I doubt the Chargers would have reached 13 without LT, and I can nearly guarentee the Cheifs don't sniff the playoffs without Johnson
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Could the Bears get to the Super Bowl with some one other than Grossman? Do the Ravens win the superbowl without Trent Dilfer? yes and yes. Also look how well the Chargers did last year after replacing Drew Brees.

I'll agree that because of all the responsibility a QB has, in most cases they are the most indespensable. However, the three teams you listed had offenses built around the QB. An elite running back cannot be underrated. The 49ers wouldn't have won even 5 games last year if it wasn't for Frank Gore, I doubt the Chargers would have reached 13 without LT, and I can nearly guarentee the Cheifs don't sniff the playoffs without Johnson
Teams like the Bears and Ravens are in the minority. Grossman played well in spurts last year and that's when the Bears were at their best. Dilfer was a good game manager and had the support of one of the best defences of all-time.

You still cannot tell me that LJ means more to his team than Manning, Brady, Brees, etc.
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Teams like the Bears and Ravens are in the minority. Grossman played well in spurts last year and that's when the Bears were at their best. Dilfer was a good game manager and had the support of one of the best defences of all-time.

You still cannot tell me that LJ means more to his team than Manning, Brady, Brees, etc.
I just dont think its an argument cause the NFL is centered around teams that make the playoffs and in the chiefs case they most likely wont. So is LJ the most indispensible player in the league? no. Is he the most indispensible player on a non-playoff team.. sure maybe, but how do you measure that? 7 wins and not making the playoffs is more successful then 3 wins and not making the playoffs.. its all the same to me.
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Gates should be taken out for LT
Well the reason they didn't include LT is because of Turner.

Remember that this isn't the best players list.

With that said, Gates isn't that important to a team with a great D and the best RB in the NFL.
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