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Old 07-08-2007, 10:35 AM    (permalink
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I don't even need to say this, but I can't help myself:

Pete Prisco is one of the worst journalists of all time, dating back to caveman journalism.
Len Pasquarelli is just as bad. i think the sports media world would be better off if these two jag bags just retired
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Fred Taylor at 5 ??

Larry Fitzgerald is overrated. Roy Williams or Anquan Boldin, please.

Shockey over Crumpler is something I will always debate...

Where is Zach Thomas at MLB??

Shawn Phillips? WTF??? All he can do is pass rush. Keith Brooking (now a MLB, but they do have Seymour at DT), Lance Briggs, Bullock, AJ Hawk, Darrick Brooks, Derrick Johnson, etc etc...

DeAngelo Hall at CB? I know some disagree, but you are wrong. lol. McAlister is past his prime and Clements would have been no better than 5-7 before signing that huge contract.

Dawan doesn't belong, yet.
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many second year players. If someone only plays one year how can they be a top five player. Mcneil is too high, Mangold is too high, Landry is too high
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Fred Taylor at 5????
I'm not sure Jeremi Johnson should be top 5 because really I don't pay attention to other teams FB's but he is better than Greg Jones that I'm sure of. Johnson can block, catch and run.

Steve Smith is the #1 WR, not #4. I have no idea how Andre Johnson is #2, what has he done to deserve a spot over Smith, Harrison and Holt?

The Bengals should have one tackle in the top 6, Levi when he's healthy is easy.

Not sure why Landry is that high, especially over Kerry Rhodes.
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No Cooley (not surprised, nobody gives him any credit)

Sean Taylor is at least top 6

No Randy Thomas at tackle.... wdf

Portis is better than Fred Taylor, but Westbrook should be above both of them. Taylor shouldn't even be on this list.
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Len Pasquarelli is just as bad. i think the sports media world would be better off if these two jag bags just retired
I will say one thing about Prisco that is positive, however...

Even if I get hit in the head by something, suffer some major brain trauma, and become braindead, I could still support myself by writing for sportsline, and possibly even steal Prisco's job.
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those are horrible? Gore at no. 3, Steven Jackson is the 3rd best back in football? And Taylor!?!?!?! The Defense is all bad. wow.
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Fred Taylor at 5????
I'm not sure Jeremi Johnson should be top 5 because really I don't pay attention to other teams FB's but he is better than Greg Jones that I'm sure of. Johnson can block, catch and run.

Steve Smith is the #1 WR, not #4. I have no idea how Andre Johnson is #2, what has he done to deserve a spot over Smith, Harrison and Holt?

The Bengals should have one tackle in the top 6, Levi when he's healthy is easy.

Not sure why Landry is that high, especially over Kerry Rhodes.


i think the only reason why he has andre johnson number 2 is that he may be thinkin if he had a consistant line and qb then he will be puttin up monster numbers and people would think hes good...i mean he is goood with a whole bunch of physical tools that teams like and what i like but hes not a game changer like smith...if he would be on this list he should be at like 6, not two
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Sorry for all you haters out there but Andre Johnson is awesome and I would take him over Roy Williams any day. (And I'm a horns fan and love roy williams)

And I agree with Dunta Robinson too. He's our only legit guy in the secondary and I've seen him make some sweet plays.

Of course Demeco is awesome too.
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Even if I get hit in the head by something, suffer some major brain trauma, and become braindead, I could still support myself by writing for sportsline, and possibly even steal Prisco's job.
worst part is prisco is their senior writer, and alot of len's stuff is their insider stuff you have to pay for
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Ummmm....

Fred Taylor over Shaun Alexander....or how about Brian Westbrook.....I don't think he's even the best RB on his own team, Maurice Drew.


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did Walter Jones have a sucky season compared to his usual? I dont get a ton of Seattle games but I remember hearing that.

Dawan is way to high.

I am shocked to see Shaun Phillips on there I wasnt expecting him.
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Fred Taylor over Shaun Alexander....or how about Brian Westbrook.....I don't think he's even the best RB on his own team, Maurice Drew.


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Probably because Alexander injury he was not listed
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im thinking on making a top 6 team

i bet its better then his...who wants to help me
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did Walter Jones have a sucky season compared to his usual? I dont get a ton of Seattle games but I remember hearing that.

Dawan is way to high.

I am shocked to see Shaun Phillips on there I wasnt expecting him.
Yes, he did have a crappy season compared to his usual.....however, he was the only guy on the Seahawks line that started all 16 games at the same position. And he was playing with high ankle sprain, as well as knee and shoulder injuries that required offseason surgery. Lack of continuity on the line and injuries certainly played a part in his worse than normal play.
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Probably because Alexander injury he was not listed

But still, there are a bunch of guys that are better than Taylor.
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Yes, he did have a crappy season compared to his usual.....however, he was the only guy on the Seahawks line that started all 16 games at the same position. And he was playing with high ankle sprain, as well as knee and shoulder injuries that required offseason surgery. Lack of continuity on the line and injuries certainly played a part in his worse than normal play.
while pace,odgen,and jones should be on there,i dont think they should be that hight anymore since they are being close to retiring and losing a step...the young guns should be taking over soon..but in the prime,i would take all three over anyone..
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I'd Argue that:

Wille Parker is a Top 5 RB, better than Fred Taylor, or Gore.
Todd Heap > Winslow, Crumpler, Watson.
Faneca > Mankins, Waters, Dielman. Even at 30.
Casey Hampton is tied for best NT with Jamal Williams. Should get some rep here.
Troy Polamalu, at worst is the #3 Safety in the league, and #1 SS. Bad season or not, they put a lot of guys with bad seasons in the rankings.

Things I'm Glad about:

Kreider actually getting some recognition.. though he's a one trick pony and thats why he's only #4

Next year Prisco will be talking about Heath Miller as a top 5 TE.
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I'd Argue that:

Wille Parker is a Top 5 RB, better than Fred Taylor, or Gore.
Todd Heap > Winslow, Crumpler, Watson.
Faneca > Mankins, Waters, Dielman. Even at 30.
Casey Hampton is tied for best NT with Jamal Williams. Should get some rep here.
Troy Polamalu, at worst is the #3 Safety in the league, and #1 SS. Bad season or not, they put a lot of guys with bad seasons in the rankings.

Things I'm Glad about:

Kreider actually getting some recognition.. though he's a one trick pony and thats why he's only #4

Next year Prisco will be talking about Heath Miller as a top 5 TE.
Not likely, he's not as dynamic as a Heap, Shockey, Winslow, Gates, etc....
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No Mack Strong at FB, Westbrook should be #5 RB and Parker or Addai at #6, Roy Williams should be in the top 6 for WRs, DeAngelo Hall should be #4 CB

For the most part it looks like he just looked at the pro bowl rosters.
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Not likely, he's not as dynamic as a Heap, Shockey, Winslow, Gates, etc....
With Arians new scheme it's very possible he could. I'm not saying he's a shoe in. Winslow still has to prove himself to me.

Gates/Gonzalez are the two he has to beat out.

Last season he wasn't granted the opportunity to be a dual-threat because our OLine sucked. With Spaeth, He'll be allowed to be a receiver more often and he could very well make the pro-bowl.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...eff&id=2924356
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Fred Taylor over Clinton Portis lol.
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These rankings are based almost soley on what the players did last year. Otherwise there would be no way that you could ever consider putting a guy like Dawan Landry about Pro Bowl safeties.
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