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Old 07-09-2007, 04:04 PM    (permalink
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I love Ward coming in here, negative repping me and yet doesn't even post himself. You want proof Ward, read the article! I said his analysis was pretty much right on, where's your proof it isn't?!?
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So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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I love Ward coming in here, negative repping me and yet doesn't even post himself. You want proof Ward, read the article! I said his analysis was pretty much right on, where's your proof it isn't?!?
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Don't you have to win one MVP before you can win 2? I think you're referring to DPOY.
Defensive players almost never win the MVP due to general ignorance and hype amongst the media, so the DPOY is the MVP for the defensive side of the ball.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:08 PM    (permalink
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Kruetz has been the best center for about three years, 4 at most. The guy who was better than him the other years, Mawae, Prisco says no way. If a center playing right now gets in other than Mawae, it would definitely be Kruetz, but when he says Mawae has no chance I don't see how he could even mention Kruetz.
While that may be, I don't see how someone like Faneca, who has never been the best at his position and still plays on the interior line, can be considered on the bubble. Guards and Centers go under basically the same criteria.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:42 PM    (permalink
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Faneca was definitely in the argument for the best OG in the league for a few years, but he is in the same boat as Kruetz that both were top interior guys for a short time but it probably won't be enough to get them in. Eh, then again we're trying to reason something Prisco wrote, so there probably is no reason to it.
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Why even throw Kurt Warner's name out there??? Everyone knows he's nowhere near HOF caliber
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I love Ward coming in here, negative repping me and yet doesn't even post himself. You want proof Ward, read the article! I said his analysis was pretty much right on, where's your proof it isn't?!?
Still waiting...............
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I love Ward coming in here, negative repping me and yet doesn't even post himself. You want proof Ward, read the article! I said his analysis was pretty much right on, where's your proof it isn't?!?
LOL, I love Ward coming in here, positive repping me and yet he doesn't even post himself. You want proof BigDawg, read any article by Pete Prisco. The guy is an absolute d-bag that likes to create rankings and lists to prove his stupidity and piss off his audience.
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LOL, I love Ward coming in here, positive repping me and yet he doesn't even post himself. You want proof BigDawg, read any article by Pete Prisco. The guy is an absolute d-bag that likes to create rankings and lists to prove his stupidity and piss off his audience.
I agree that most of his stuff is garbage, but for the most part his analysis on these players is right on. Put aside your hatred for the guy and then look at it again. He's right on with his predictions about Hall chances.
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I agree that most of his stuff is garbage, but for the most part his analysis on these players is right on. Put aside your hatred for the guy and then look at it again. He's right on with his predictions about Hall chances.
I didn't bother to look, I never feel accomplished after reading his articles. I wasn't really arguing with you, just laughing at the situation.
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I didn't bother to look, I never feel accomplished after reading his articles. I wasn't really arguing with you, just laughing at the situation.
The situation is repulsive! For Ward to that with his comment is bush league IMO. He's calling for me to provide proof when all he did was slam Prisco yet offer nothing of value to the discussion about the subject of the article.
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The situation is repulsive! For Ward to that with his comment is bush league IMO. He's calling for me to provide proof when all he did was slam Prisco yet offer nothing of value to the discussion about the subject of the article.
Just stop right there, that's all I need to hear...
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Etk you should actually read the article. All of his rankings are pretty good
Prepare for a rep raping........
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Etk you should actually read the article. All of his rankings are pretty good
I'm not saying they aren't, but it's tradition. All Prisco articles get shown the back door.
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Why even throw Kurt Warner's name out there??? Everyone knows he's nowhere near HOF caliber
Didn't he win 2 MVP awards and a championship? Sad as it is, that in itself is nearly a HOF resume.
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If it were up to me, I would only put in players that were the best at their positions for at least one year. Players like Curtis Martin will get in, for accumulative production, though I personally don't think that should be the case. Players should be evaluated by dominance first, longevity second.
By that logic Kordell Stewart should be in the HOF.
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By that logic Kordell Stewart should be in the HOF.


He said at least one year... not only one year.
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By that logic Kordell Stewart should be in the HOF.
No it doesn't.
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By that logic Kordell Stewart should be in the HOF.
Kordell was never the best anything.............EVER!
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Kordell was never the best anything.............EVER!
Thank you. If I would have known that someone would have applied Kordell Stewart to my logic I would have killed myself on the spot, prior to me posting.
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I can grauntee you that in 2 years holt will be a lock... the guy is the model of consitency.. is aging EXTREMLY well... he will be able to play 4-5 more years at a high level IMO... he is one of the greatest all time
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Kordell had 1 or 2 extremely good seasons.

2001..

Threw for over 3100 yards, and had 600 on the ground... 15 tds passing and 5 running.

I'm not a Stewart fan, but thats a great season.
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If it were up to me, I would only put in players that were the best at their positions for at least one year. Players like Curtis Martin will get in, for accumulative production, though I personally don't think that should be the case. Players should be evaluated by dominance first, longevity second.
I think that's a good idea. Although I'd think sometimes a person who is amazing in their own right, but just not the best, similar to say, Brady and Manning, depending on your viewpoint of them. Obviously, even if you think either one has been better for their whole career, they both deserve in. It would also prevent so called "accumulators" from getting in just by staying healthy and being very good, while never great. It's a problem that's gonna start happening in baseball, as the sacred 500 homers is going to be passed by players who are only "very good" and the pressure will be there to put them in. It will start happening soon in football as the 40,000 passing yard mark could be passed by guys who are just very good.
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