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Old 12-29-2008, 06:43 PM    (permalink
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yeah you caught me mid-change of the post. I saw it after I posted the first time. yeah he would have been nice
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i love Reggie Williams but his time here in Jax is up. Him and Mike Peterson cleaned out their lockers from what i heard
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i love Reggie Williams but his time here in Jax is up. Him and Mike Peterson cleaned out their lockers from what i heard
i know it didn't mean much, but Reggie just absolutely sucked it up Sunday at baltimore. I agree he needs to go.
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Hey guys, theres a forum mock thats being set up if anybody is interested. There are still something like 12 GM spots available if people are interested.

For people that haven't participated in a forum mock in the past they should check it out, they are tons of fun.

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it seems like OT is a deep position in the draft. guys like Phil Loadholt and maybe Ciron Black and Eben Britton (if he comes out) could be available with our second round pick. Is that is so and we go BPA, is Malcolm Jenkins or maybe Rey Maualuga or Taylor Mays the pick? Depth in certain positions is something to keep an eye on.
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it seems like OT is a deep position in the draft. guys like Phil Loadholt and maybe Ciron Black and Eben Britton (if he comes out) could be available with our second round pick. Is that is so and we go BPA, is Malcolm Jenkins or maybe Rey Maualuga or Taylor Mays the pick? Depth in certain positions is something to keep an eye on.
Personally, I have Michael Oher, Andre Smith, and Eugene Monroe rated ahead of Malcom Jenkins. If 1 of those 3 linemen are there at #8, I'd rather have us take him. But if they're all gone, I would be very happy with Malcom Jenkins and then whoever falls to us at the top of the second round (although hopefully not Loadholt as he appears to be strictly a RT). Ciron Black would be perfect.

I'm not high on Maualuga, but I get what you're saying with going BPA.
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Here's my ideal, but realistic Jaguars mock I wrote earlier today on another site (hence the confusing explanation for Brace).

If you guys see anything errors, please point them out. I've only been following the Jags for a little over a year.

1. Michael Oher, LT, Ole Miss

Assuming Eugene Monroe and Andre Smith are both off the board, Oher would be my selection. He's the better run blocker of the 3 in my opinion, and that's what Jacksonville's offense does the most. Khaliff Barnes wants out and given his play this year, I don't think many Jaguars fans would care if he was let go.

2. Domonique Johnson, CB, Jackson State

When draft day comes around, this may be considered a steal. Johnson is tall, fast, and an INT machine. DRC's hype from last year will help his stock a bit. If Brian Williams stays at SS, the team will need help at CB, and he could start at nickel, making Brian Witherspoon the dime back, assuming Scott Starks isn't resigned.

3. Ron Brace, DT, Boston College

I know, how can Brace be picked by every team, right? Well, quite a few DTs would make me happy in the 3rd. I just picked Brace because the team needs a big run stuffer next to John Henderson. The staff missed the mark when they replaced Marcus Stroud with Rob Meier. If they resign Paul Spicer, Brace could split time with him at DT.

4. Derek Walker, DE, Illinois

The Jaguars need help at DE, but they don't necessarily need a pass-rushing specialist. They loaded up on those last year when they drafted Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves. Walker has prototypical LE size and could be a nice rotational guy behind Reggie Hayward.

5. Jason Watkins, OT, Florida

Even after drafting Oher, there is little depth at either tackle position. Watkins is a guy I could see on either side.

6. Al Alfalava, S, Oregon State

I'm not going to kid myself. At this point in the draft, I doubt the Jaguars will be looking for an instant backup. Alfalava has the intensity and strength to star on special teams and eventually, he'd be a decent backup. My need justification is Gerald Sensabaugh will likely not be resigned.
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Here's my ideal, but realistic Jaguars mock I wrote earlier today on another site (hence the confusing explanation for Brace).

If you guys see anything errors, please point them out. I've only been following the Jags for a little over a year.

1. Michael Oher, LT, Ole Miss

Assuming Eugene Monroe and Andre Smith are both off the board, Oher would be my selection. He's the better run blocker of the 3 in my opinion, and that's what Jacksonville's offense does the most. Khaliff Barnes wants out and given his play this year, I don't think many Jaguars fans would care if he was let go.

2. Domonique Johnson, CB, Jackson State

When draft day comes around, this may be considered a steal. Johnson is tall, fast, and an INT machine. DRC's hype from last year will help his stock a bit. If Brian Williams stays at SS, the team will need help at CB, and he could start at nickel, making Brian Witherspoon the dime back, assuming Scott Starks isn't resigned.

3. Ron Brace, DT, Boston College

I know, how can Brace be picked by every team, right? Well, quite a few DTs would make me happy in the 3rd. I just picked Brace because the team needs a big run stuffer next to John Henderson. The staff missed the mark when they replaced Marcus Stroud with Rob Meier. If they resign Paul Spicer, Brace could split time with him at DT.

4. Derek Walker, DE, Illinois

The Jaguars need help at DE, but they don't necessarily need a pass-rushing specialist. They loaded up on those last year when they drafted Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves. Walker has prototypical LE size and could be a nice rotational guy behind Reggie Hayward.

5. Jason Watkins, OT, Florida

Even after drafting Oher, there is little depth at either tackle position. Watkins is a guy I could see on either side.

6. Al Alfalava, S, Oregon State

I'm not going to kid myself. At this point in the draft, I doubt the Jaguars will be looking for an instant backup. Alfalava has the intensity and strength to star on special teams and eventually, he'd be a decent backup. My need justification is Gerald Sensabaugh will likely not be resigned.


the only thing i disagree with is the fourth round pick. I think with Harvey and Groves a DE is not needed. I prefer LB because Smith, Ingram, and Durant (who is a future stud) are the starters but we have no depth. Mark my words, Pittsburgh's Scott McKillop will be a steal. A nose for the ball and his superb instincts are tough to teach. I'm a Big East fan (unfortunately I'm a Syracuse fan) so I know those guys well. Mike Mickens is another solid DB to watch in the second but I love the Oher pick, a physical run blocker is what we need.
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Where is the wide receiver in this draft.. or do u think the jags will sign a free agent
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Where is the wide receiver in this draft.. or do u think the jags will sign a free agent
Truth be told we really do have bigger needs. We need to re-establish our identity, run the ball and stop the run and always be physical. We can get by on Matt Jones, Dennis Northcutt, Mike Walker (who could be a great WR), and Reggie Williams if he stays.
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Truth be told we really do have bigger needs. We need to re-establish our identity, run the ball and stop the run and always be physical. We can get by on Matt Jones, Dennis Northcutt, Mike Walker (who could be a great WR), and Reggie Williams if he stays.
Williams is out, for sure. Jones and Northcutt should start with Walker, Williamson, and Porter on the bench. My newest mock has us taking 1 mid-round receiver, but like you said, it's far from our biggest need.
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Williams is out, for sure. Jones and Northcutt should start with Walker, Williamson, and Porter on the bench. My newest mock has us taking 1 mid-round receiver, but like you said, it's far from our biggest need.
exactly, unfortunately I have to say that any mock I see with JAX taking a WR first I have to dismiss. We need a LT. just look at the teams that have advanced, all but ARI have solid lines and most importantly, depth. Kendall Simmons and Marvel Smith went out but they were replaced.

I'll always take a great line with ok skill players over an ok line with great skill players. QB's need time, and RB's need holes to find. The O-line is so crucial.
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I guess i'll try to spark some convo, how about Derrick Williams from Penn St? If he is around in the fourth round, do we take him? I think a guy with proven success for a great school would be nice, plus his big play ability.
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I like D-Will. I think we'd probably have to take him in the 3rd, though. I'm wondering if one out of Heyward-Bey, Harvin, Nicks, or Britt is there in the second, do you snag one of them? Any of those 4 could start with Matt Jones, with Northcutt in the slot (or in Harvin's case, move him to the slot and start Northcutt).


Another point of discussion: Who will/should be the new defensive coordinator?
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I was wondering if Khalif Barnes can play in a ZBS and if he is a Green Bay guy? thanks, also if he is going to test the market and what do you see his value as?
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I was wondering if Khalif Barnes can play in a ZBS and if he is a Green Bay guy? thanks, also if he is going to test the market and what do you see his value as?
Barnes is gone, that's why the Jags are keen on taking a LT with their first pick. He is maddeningly inconsistent. Not sure about ZBS but I don't see why he couldn't. He will have decent value because he is relatively young (26) and has a bevy of starting experience.
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I like D-Will. I think we'd probably have to take him in the 3rd, though. I'm wondering if one out of Heyward-Bey, Harvin, Nicks, or Britt is there in the second, do you snag one of them? Any of those 4 could start with Matt Jones, with Northcutt in the slot (or in Harvin's case, move him to the slot and start Northcutt).


Another point of discussion: Who will/should be the new defensive coordinator?
I heard the Panthers DC might come over which would be nice. CAR has always had a great D and could have made the SB if not for Delhomme having the worst game ever. Tgorvac i think is his name. it's something like that.
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I heard the Panthers DC might come over which would be nice. CAR has always had a great D and could have made the SB if not for Delhomme having the worst game ever. Tgorvac i think is his name. it's something like that.
Mel Tucker will likely be our DC or Asst DC. He's a secondary coach from Cleveland who was promoted to DC last year.
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I'd say probably Asst. DC/secondary coach with Jack being the DC on gameday.
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I'd say probably Asst. DC/secondary coach with Jack being the DC on gameday.

Yea, that's what the reports going around are saying. Nothing official but I wouldn't be against JDR being the DC. He seems to take it to heart when the defense doesn't play well, and that's when he doesn't call the defensive plays. I see our defense standing out this year.
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Yea, that's what the reports going around are saying. Nothing official but I wouldn't be against JDR being the DC. He seems to take it to heart when the defense doesn't play well, and that's when he doesn't call the defensive plays. I see our defense standing out this year.
JDR is one of those guys that wears his heart on his sleeve and his calling card should be defense. I think once they get a solid LT (any thought about moving Mo Williams back to tackle, or bad idea?) that the O will be fine. the D was a big problem because the jags had the lead late in many games only to see the D give up a score.

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JDR is one of those guys that wears his heart on his sleeve and his calling card should be defense. I think once they get a solid LT (any thought about moving Mo Williams back to tackle, or bad idea?) that the O will be fine. the D was a big problem because the jags had the lead late in many games only to see the D give up a score.

cut florence and porter, they are useless.
The D really wasn't the problem as much as the man calling the plays. Gregg Williams was a horrible play caller. And it started off that way against TN in the first game of the season. 3rd and 15 and we send an all-out blitz. Worst play calling I've ever seen especially from a somewhat respectable DC like Williams. We couldn't get any pressure with our front 4 and the secondary took the heat. Get a big guy next to Big John and most of the problems on D will work themselves out (Rob Meier isn't the answer).
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That was an idea I haven't thought of yet though about Mo Williams moving back to LT. He could be servicable for a year or so if we don't get a LT early. But then our running game would falter a little without him at the guard position. It allows us to be more flexible in the FA though. We could go G or LT and that opens the players we could target a little better.
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hey guys im working on a mock right now and in the scenario all 3 of the big 3 ots (smith, monroe and oher) are off the board by #8. monroe went to the bengals and oher went to the raiders. in that scenario would you guys consider jason smith (i know it seems high, but i think he will end up in the top 10) or would you go another direction... maybe raji or jeremy maclin. it seems like you guys would rather get a LT in round 1 which is why im leaning towards smith, but i wasnt sure how good of a fit he would be for your power running game.

but the vibe im getting is that if one of those top 3 OT's is available... you guys will grab him. at least from the fans that is. haha
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