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Old 07-13-2007, 01:19 PM    (permalink
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I never liked him. Spin moves are a big no-no in my book. I don't think one-dimensional DEs are worth long-term contracts because they tend to decline rapidly.
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Excellent, now the franchise tag can be used on Sanders at season's end.
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WHAT!?!? that much for freeney, hes not even that good, maybe the Colt's best DE, but still not worth half that much
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I never liked him. Spin moves are a big no-no in my book. I don't think one-dimensional DEs are worth long-term contracts because they tend to decline rapidly.
Have you ever actually watched him play his gap, or are you judging him based on highlights in which he's normally asked to take the outside route, abandon his gap, and try to sack the QB?
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He played 16 games this year, got 6 sacks, his stats were no better than KGB's and he doesnt make the big sacks in the big situations
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Have you ever actually watched him play his gap, or are you judging him based on highlights in which he's normally asked to take the outside route, abandon his gap, and try to sack the QB?
I've seen him play plenty. Find me one defensive line coach who endorses spinning. Find me one person who thinks that Freeney isn't one-dimensional. He rushes the passer very well, but that's about it. KGB did the same a few years ago, and look at him now.
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I never liked him. Spin moves are a big no-no in my book. I don't think one-dimensional DEs are worth long-term contracts because they tend to decline rapidly.
ala KGB!!!! he is a good player but the contract is to long IMO
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ala KGB!!!! he is a good player but the contract is to long IMO
Correct! Evantually he'll get old and lose his pass rush ability and then he'll have nothing
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Correct! Evantually he'll get old and lose his pass rush ability and then he'll have nothing
Players and teams adapt to one-dimensional players. If all you do is rush the outside, they're going to adapt and stop you. That's why guys like Strahan who are so versatile are deadly.
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Players and teams adapt to one-dimensional players. If all you do is rush the outside, they're going to adapt and stop you. That's why guys like Strahan who are so versatile are deadly.
Thats why pass rushers like merriman who have more than a spin... last so dam long... cause even when he slows down... he'll run you over or throw you(the OT) into the QB
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The only player who has ever been able to stop a healthy Dwight Freeney consistently is Orlando Pace. Enough said.
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I've seen him play plenty. Find me one defensive line coach who endorses spinning. Find me one person who thinks that Freeney isn't one-dimensional. He rushes the passer very well, but that's about it. KGB did the same a few years ago, and look at him now.
I asked if you'd ever seen him play his gap, not your opinion about Freeney's style of play, or to whom you think he compares. Would you like to answer the question now?
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were not talking about this year or past years though brown... were meanign in 3 year he prolly wont be worth this... do you recall how fast KGB declined... it was epic!
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I asked if you'd ever seen him play his gap, not your opinion about Freeney's style of play, or to whom you think he compares. Would you like to answer the question now?
He never plays his gap. He goes after the QB every play. Hence his low tackle numbers...
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For a half. After the false start in the 3rd quarter, Pace was toast. Really, the OT who has stopped Freeney the best since Roaf retired is Levi Jones.
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He never plays his gap. He goes after the QB every play. Hence his low tackle numbers...
Again, you avoid the question instead of answering it. You're blaming him for doing what he's asked to do in the scheme. Now, would you please ANSWER the question?
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were not talking about this year or past years though brown... were meanign in 3 year he prolly wont be worth this... do you recall how fast KGB declined... it was epic!
Yes, because 6'1" 268 and 6'4" 247 players are built so similarly...
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Again, you avoid the question instead of answering it. You're blaming him for doing what he's asked to do in the scheme. Now, would you please ANSWER the question?
I haven't seen him ever play his gap and make a solid run tackle, no. At least not off the top of my head. How would I remember such an insignificant play out of all the plays I've seen? This is all irrelevant anyway. He's one-dimensional, a liability against the run, and now extremely overpaid.
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Have you ever actually watched him play his gap, or are you judging him based on highlights in which he's normally asked to take the outside route, abandon his gap, and try to sack the QB?
i've seen him try to be the tazmanian devil plenty of times and get shut down

he doesnt play run either.
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When healthy he is still the most dominant pass rusher in the NFL. Good job by the Colts, definitely a necessary move.
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I haven't seen him ever play his gap and make a solid run tackle, no. At least not off the top of my head. How would I remember such an insignificant play out of all the plays I've seen? This is all irrelevant anyway. He's one-dimensional, a liability against the run, and now extremely overpaid.
Well if you've never seen him play his gap, how can you say he's a one-dimensional player? As I've told you many times, when he's asked to play his gap, he does well at it, either maintaining contain on his gap and forcing the RB to another, or making a play on the ballcarrier. You can't blame a player for doing what he's asked to do within a scheme, and most times, Freeney is asked to abandon his gap and go after the QB from the edge, which is why the draw play to his gap works well most of the time. I guess you're entitled to your opinion, but in this case, it's not a very knowledgeable one.
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