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Old 07-13-2007, 02:05 PM    (permalink
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A designated pass rusher who only got 6 sacks (5.5 to be exact) doesnt deserve all that money
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A designated pass rusher who only got 6 sacks (5.5 to be exact) doesnt deserve all that money
especially when 3 of those came in 1 game where both their Tackles were injured
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The contract is too big and too long, I agree. But to say he's not good is just idiotic. First of all, he played most of the year through injury. Second, he CONSTANTLY takes on double and tripple teams. If a team puts just a tackle on him (and its not Pace) the QB is going to get sacked 2 or 3 times and probably fumble 1 of them. Opposing teams have to use TEs on his side and FBs all the time, a defensive player who demands 2 to 3 blockers on every passing play is worth some bank, but again probably too high a price for too long of a period, he should have been tagged repeatedly, atleast there wouldn't have been risk involved then.
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oh and half the colts message board said 10 mill per year is too much for Dwight(they like him and all, blah blah blah but not for that much). 12 mill per year..thats way too much
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A designated pass rusher who only got 6 sacks (5.5 to be exact) doesnt deserve all that money
When the QB has a pocket to step into on most every play thanks to mediocre at best DT play, a DE who rushes mainly from the edge isn't going to get many sacks. He still had one of the highest totals of pressures in the league.
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Merriman's going to be the highest paid player in the league one day.
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I don't like this. I cannot imagine Dwight Freeney to continue being productive in the NFL for too much longer. He game is predicated on speed, when he gets towards his thirties he won't have it. He will be dominated if he cannot blow past his opponents.
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Yes, because 6'1" 268 and 6'4" 247 players are built so similarly...
okay im not trying to take away from freeney... he is a great player... but im saying is pass rushers usually drop off... and once freeneys speed and jump start to slow down wiht his age... he will slow down and not be nearly as affective.. compared to a guy that is maybe 6'5 280 who will always be able to play the run.. he is smaller and a pass rush specialist. they have shorter life spans in the L compared to guys built like strahan or kampman
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okay im not trying to take away from freeney... he is a great player... but im saying is pass rushers usually drop off... and once freeneys speed and jump start to slow down wiht his age... he will slow down and not be nearly as affective.. compared to a guy that is maybe 6'5 280 who will always be able to play the run.. he is smaller and a pass rush specialist. they have shorter life spans in the L compared to guys built like strahan or kampman
Freeney: 6'1" 268
Strahan: 6'5" 255
Kampman: 6'4" 270

Good point you have there though.
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Good point you have there though.
Listed heights are weights are rarely even close to accurate. Aside from that, they're not important really in this debate. Freeney is a pure-speed player with one or two moves. Strahan is one of the most versatile DEs in the league with a plethora of pass rush moves and he's good against the run. Kampman is more power-based but his speed is decent for his size and he has good technique and plays the run EXTREMELY well. Freeney is a one-trick pony.
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Listed heights are weights are rarely even close to accurate. Aside from that, they're not important really in this debate. Freeney is a pure-speed player with one or two moves. Strahan is one of the most versatile DEs in the league with a plethora of pass rush moves and he's good against the run. Kampman is more power-based but his speed is decent for his size and he has good technique and plays the run EXTREMELY well. Freeney is a one-trick pony.
I'll trust the NFL to accurately list player heights and weights much more quickly than I'll trust your opinion on Freeney. His argument was Freeney's build will impede him later on in his career, which, given his height and weight in comparison to the heights and weights of most DEs in the NFL, isn't true at all.
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As a Colts fan, the impact Dwight Freeney provides to the rest of the DL is simply extravagant. Robert Mathis is a nice "Robin" to Freeney's "Batman" but if you watched the Denver game you would've seen the coverage Freeney got (double, once I saw a near-triple) and he frees up Mathis and occasionally Josh Thomas.

To be fair, how many times did teams run on the Colts? If I recall, most RBs tended to go to the weakside with Brock-Mathis and Cato June's direction. Watch the Jacksonville game, his tackle numbers were low just because team's ran to June it seemed.

Is he the greatest player? NO. But given how he had an arch injury (as well as a buttock one early on) he did OK.

I can DEFINITELY see Moses view on this. Freeney isn't a Kampman or a Strahan (or even an Aaron Smith--different D though) but he still makes a highly positive impact on the Colts.

I want to see Dallas Clark and Bob Sanders retained more than Freeney, IMO. But seeing Freeney in Colts Blue long - term makes me happy. Now let's hope Quinn Pitcock can eventually succeed Raheem Brock at UT.
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Don't get me wrong. Freeney is a great player. I just don't see how this move is going to help the Colts in the longterm. Of course, I bet it's backloaded and he'll likely get cut if he begins to KGB it.
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Good point you have there though.
k the hieghts are not what im talking about!.... they play the run better... so they last longer... so you could say because freeney is only that big his productive career may be shorter...
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30 million dollars for him!??!!!?!!! Wow they grossly overpaid.....
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Regardless of the money or what other people think it was a necessary move by the Colts if they want to have a chance at a title while Peyton is the quarterback.
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ya he is a good player now.. and if they want to repeat or win one in the next two years he is needed...
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Freeney does not deserve the money a QB deserves, no way no how. This contract will haunt the Colts for years to come.
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I trust Polian and Co. to have made this deal with some escape clause. Minus the atrocity that was the Corey Simon deal (which I think they learned from), Polian has done great since Manning was drafted.

It is most likely heavily prorated, now there will be the signing of Gonzo, Ugoh and Hughes.
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I trust Polian and Co. to have made this deal with some escape clause. Minus the atrocity that was the Corey Simon deal (which I think they learned from), Polian has done great since Manning was drafted.

It is most likely heavily prorated, now there will be the signing of Gonzo, Ugoh and Hughes.
"Freeney will receive $37.72 million over the first three years of the contract. In doing the deal, the Colts will save $3.68 million of salary-cap room that they can use to keep other players whose contracts are expiring. The Colts had $3.4 million of cap room before reaching agreement with Freeney."

Thats from ESPN.com, like I said this contract is going to haunt them.
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Thats from ESPN.com, like I said this contract is going to haunt them.
Ah thanks for the specifics.

I am still confident in Freeney, he did have an off year last year (due to the horrible run-D amongst other injuries) but if he can revert to 2005 form, I'll definitely like this deal.

Now it's rookie time.
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When the QB has a pocket to step into on most every play thanks to mediocre at best DT play, a DE who rushes mainly from the edge isn't going to get many sacks. He still had one of the highest totals of pressures in the league.
I thought thats what the spin move was for, the inside move. Besides, if he abandons his gap against a running QB it leaves an open lane for the qb to run through.

Freeney is not only a one dimension player, but he is a one dimensional pass rusher when compared to other elite DE's Peppers, Strahan, Smith, Taylor all have great inside moves to compliment an edge rush. Give me DE like Peppers who from time to time gets a tackle and a guard blocking him over a tackle and te or rb combo.
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Thats why pass rushers like merriman who have more than a spin...
...and more than one syringes of HGH...

Anyway, good move for both parties. You can talk about the money all you want, but the Colts need Dwight Freeney. And if Freeney hit the FA market this year, he would have likely gotten a similar contract. Plus, like someone said, the contract is probably hevily backloaded. So in four or five years when he's declining, he'll have to restructure or be cut.
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