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Old 07-14-2007, 09:18 PM    (permalink
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i was thinking more along the lines of a 3-4 NT. its much different than a 4-3 nose, so when he said NT..i went with the 3-4 since we were talking about Hampton.

when comparing, i would stick 3-4 guys with 3-4 guys and the 4-3s as separate .

i know ravens run 4-3 and 3-4 but mainly a 4-3 am i right?
I wouldn't say what the Ravens run is mainly any, because they might line up in a 4-3, but drop Suggs back into coverage or something like that and then its a perfectly effective 3-4. This is why its so successful, players can move around the field and can play a variety of roles.
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I still don't understand the notion that Casey Hampton is an Elite 3-4 NT but if he was a 4-3 NT he would be 1/2 as good. His job would be the same and he would have another guy right beside him... as Gregg does with Ngata...

I don't know why we're having this discussion..

Should we start a Ray Lewis vs. Ernie Sims thread as well?

As for Ngata vs. Casey.. You're saying Ngata is the better player because he's more versatile..

And why are we talking about Suggs? Hampton could be elite either system. And it doesn't make sense that your comparing a 3-4 DE to a 3-4 NT.

The better comparison would be Ngata to Aaron Smith.
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I still don't understand the notion that Casey Hampton is an Elite 3-4 NT but if he was a 4-3 NT he would be 1/2 as good. His job would be the same and he would have another guy right beside him... as Gregg does with Ngata...

I don't know why we're having this discussion..

Should we start a Ray Lewis vs. Ernie Sims thread as well?

As for Ngata vs. Casey.. You're saying Ngata is the better player because he's more versatile..

And why are we talking about Suggs? Hampton could be elite either system. And it doesn't make sense that your comparing a 3-4 DE to a 3-4 NT.

The better comparison would be Ngata to Aaron Smith.
As I said earlier, this is a ridiculous comparison. Its even more obvious since we, a Ravens and Steelers fan, agree that this is ridiculous. Hampton is the better player since he's established, Ngata is the up and coming guy with tremendous upside.
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As I said earlier, this is a ridiculous comparison. Its even more obvious since we, a Ravens and Steelers fan, agree that this is ridiculous. Hampton is the better player since he's established, Ngata is the up and coming guy with tremendous upside.
Agreed.

Frankly I don't know who I'd pick starting a 3-4. I would lean NT, because with a dominant NT you have the upperhand (Jamal Williams, Hampton, Wilfork, Gregg).

Ngata is versatile and I think he will be a thorn in our side for a long time.

Again, A better comparison would be Hampton vs. Gregg as they're both great NT's and limited to NT.

Or Aaron Smith and Ngata who are 3-4 DE's that are tough in a 4-3 DT spot.

I'd take Hampton and Ngata at those points.

But this is just ridiculous.
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Anyways, I do believe Ngata could play 3-4 NT but I don't really know who I would take.
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The choice is this:

Hampton - Proven Commodity

Ngata - Potential and huge upside
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Anyways, I do believe Ngata could play 3-4 NT but I don't really know who I would take.
No, he'd split them with Jamal Williams. and then they'd go find Warren Sapp. Beefy!
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i was thinking more along the lines of a 3-4 NT. its much different than a 4-3 nose, so when he said NT..i went with the 3-4 since we were talking about Hampton.

when comparing, i would stick 3-4 guys with 3-4 guys and the 4-3s as separate .

i know ravens run 4-3 and 3-4 but mainly a 4-3 am i right?
NO you are far from right and your knowledge of the Ravens is so weak that you should never post about them again.
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NO you are far from right and your knowledge of the Ravens is so weak that you should never post about them again.
I tried telling him before CCB, but what do actual Ravens' fans know...........
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remix, Kelly Gregg about as strong as Ngata or maybe a little bit weaker, while Ngata is way more athletic and could get to the edge better then Gregg. It is the right fit for Gregg to be at NT and Ngata at end in a 3-4
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