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Old 11-08-2010, 12:12 AM    (permalink
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Up to 7th in the rankings. If we win out like we should, we'll be in a BCS game for sure.
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Trying to keep up with the Rose Bowl race, since there is a lot of misinformation out there and "experts" who have no idea what they are talking about, constantly conflicting each other.

Currently WI, MSU, OSU are all still tied and it looks pretty likely that they all win out. If we lose to Michigan, no Rose Bowl. If MSU loses and we don't, Rose Bowl is a lock. I've been hearing that there is a good chance we would be above OSU in the BCS if we both win out. Maybe we actually control our own destiny with all of the tough games behind us!!! Two questions though:

Iowa looks weak as hell. They were a dropped pass away from losing to Indiana and Northwestern was giving them trouble, though look to be in better shape now. Since we need OSU to win out and beat Iowa anyway, how much does that win bump OSU in the BCS now that Iowa looks a lot weaker than they did a month ago or so? That win for us was a big one at the time, a Big 10 rival with 1 loss and a highly ranked team, does that win lose value now that Iowa is struggling a little bit? They did crush Michigan State, so it's a confusing team to evaluate for me.

Second, do style points matter for us right now? It looks like we are going to be within 1 or 2 spots of OSU in the BCS. Could the difference between 1 spot ahead or 1 spot behind hinge on a 3 TD win vs. Michigan vs. a field goal win against Michigan?

Alright, enough BCS talk, though I'm extremely hyped up about this team and I want Rose bowl soooooooo bad.

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IMO, Montee Ball is going to be completely under the radar of most draftniks, who will call him a late/UDFA guy. However the NFL scouts will be watching Carimi, Moffitt, Clay, Kendricks closely, and at some point, they are going to say: how is that 240 lb RB running as fast or faster than the secondary? He hits the hole with a huge head of steam and power, maybe even more than Clay who is kind of tentative IMO. He is a one cut and go runner who consistently gets yards after contact and is always falling forward. I love seeing him truck linebackers. He doesn't break a lot of tackles but usually the ball ends up at least 3 yards past where he gets hit, unless the play falls apart completely.
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Obviously it's best to go to the Rose Bowl just because well, it's the Rose Bowl. However, it wouldn't be the worst thing not to get it. If we win out we're for sure getting a BCS game. In the Rose Bowl we'd get Oregon or Boise State. As an at large we could be playing Pittsburgh or Virginia Tech.
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Well Northwestern just beat Iowa. Unless Michigan State loses we still have to root for Ohio State next week, but it won't be as impressive of a win now so that'll help with the BCS rankings.
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After blowing out Indiana today it seems likely we'll end up the top Big Ten team in the BCS, barring a loss. Computers will drool over the margin of victory, albeit against a crappy team, and the pollsters won't let MSU or OSU make up ground when we blew the piss out of a Big Ten team and put up the highest point total of any team this year.

I wish I could say there was a chance we'd make it to 1 or 2 but TCU and Boise are both going to win out and at least one of the other four teams ahead of us is likely to.

Auburn and TCU are both losing right now, though, so who knows. I find it unlikely they'd put a one loss second-best-in-the-PAC10 Stanford team in the BCS game ahead of the best Big Ten team, but maybe. I doubt LSU wins out. Oregon and Boise are unlikely to lose, though, so probably a moot point. #3 or #4 at best.
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I would say we are actually in really good shape in the BCS standings right now. We'll be above MSU for sure since they didn't play OSU and lost to Iowa. When OSU beats Iowa, that won't be much of a quality win since they have 3 losses, one against Northwestern. Don't remember the other but I'm pretty sure it was someone bad. So any voters that have us ranked right next to each other would almost surely put us 1 spot above with the H2H win. Our H2H loss to MSU shouldn't hurt us in that situation because they will be a few spots further down the ladder, and they wouldn't jump them up past a bunch of other teams just because of a H2H win.

My biggest question remains though:
Iowa was a good team when they lost to us, an average team when they crushed MSU, and will be a poor team when they lose to OSU. Is the quality of the win/loss the same for all 3 teams or do they say our Iowa win is worth more than OSU's Iowa win because they were more highly regarded when we played them?
(If you haven't noticed, I'm assuming OSU beats Iowa. I'd give OSU about a 10 point spread in that game. But if they do lose there is no debate really)
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I believe if both the Badgers and MSU win out that MSU would finish higher in the BCS standings. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here though because we do play at Michigan wich is going to be a tough game. If they win next week then we can talk about the different scenarios.
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I believe if both the Badgers and MSU win out that MSU would finish higher in the BCS standings. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here though because we do play at Michigan wich is going to be a tough game. If they win next week then we can talk about the different scenarios.
How do you see MSU finishing ahead of Wisconsin??? They don't have the respect of the pollsters, not that the Badgers do but the Spartans were expected to lose at some point, and when they did lose they got smoked 37-6 at Iowa, which isn't favorable in any scenario. In all likelihood Michigan State will be the odd team out in the BCS scenario for Big Ten teams because they're not a school we associate with winning in college football and their one loss was an ass whooping.
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How do you see MSU finishing ahead of Wisconsin??? They don't have the respect of the pollsters, not that the Badgers do but the Spartans were expected to lose at some point, and when they did lose they got smoked 37-6 at Iowa, which isn't favorable in any scenario. In all likelihood Michigan State will be the odd team out in the BCS scenario for Big Ten teams because they're not a school we associate with winning in college football and their one loss was an ass whooping.
I read an article that said MSU would finish higher in the BCS. The polls are only 1/3 of the BCS formula.
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I read an article that said MSU would finish higher in the BCS. The polls are only 1/3 of the BCS formula.
Each poll is 1/3 and then 1/3 is computers. Regardless of the formula, Michigan State is 4 spots and 11% behind us. It's basically impossible for them to jump us unless we lose.
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I wish this sports writers would actually watch a game they choose to write about. All this BS about the Badgers running up the score... What are we supposed to do tell our 3rd stringers to get stuffed running the ball, drop passes, then proceed to punt? Suck my nuts.
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Each poll is 1/3 and then 1/3 is computers. Regardless of the formula, Michigan State is 4 spots and 11% behind us. It's basically impossible for them to jump us unless we lose.
Yeah, there's no way MSU or OSU jumps us if we win out. No one is going to jump them ahead of us in the polls and we're barely behind MSU in the computers and well ahead of OSU. If we win out we'll get BCS juiciness.
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Yeah, there's no way MSU or OSU jumps us if we win out. No one is going to jump them ahead of us in the polls and we're barely behind MSU in the computers and well ahead of OSU. If we win out we'll get BCS juiciness.
OSU gained 20 points on us even though we both won. Kind of foolsih to make predictions with 2 weeks left plus conference championship games yet to be played. Lets beat Michigan first and then we can talk roses.
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OSU gained 20 points on us even though we both won. Kind of foolsih to make predictions with 2 weeks left plus conference championship games yet to be played.
It's a sport, you make predictions.

OSU may have a chance to pass us in the BCS with a victory over Iowa but the question is, how much credit will pollsters give them in beating a flailing Iowa team? And how much credit will the computers give out for beating a then-4 loss team? They need to make up significant ground both in the computers and the polls.

MSU doesn't play anyone that will give them a boost, so I don't see how they'd jump Wisconsin.
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It's a sport, you make predictions.
No ****, its also a sport where you assume wins and strength of schedule.
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No ****, its also a sport where you assume wins and strength of schedule.
The Badgers are doing well, why can't you just be happy and dream? YOU RUIN EVERYTHING! :*(
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In the human polls if Wisky and OSU are ranked right next to each other I don't know how anyone can give OSU the edge. Same conference, played a lot of the same teams, H2H win should be the tie breaker in the mind of the voters.
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Start to smell those roses! Big win today and this was our only real stopping block on the way to Pasadena. The run game was huge yet again and we should have Clay back for next week too.

Purdue is also up 11 on Michigan State with 8 minutes left in the game.
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Purdue is letting it slip away...we're gonna need to cheer for Ohio State to continue to win
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haha Yeah I keep forgetting I want OSU to win. Damn Purdue you could have helped us so much. Want some good news? MSU is 0-8 at Penn St. and we play Northwestern without Persa.
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perfect result from Ohio State, they won but it wasn't pretty at all
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perfect result from Ohio State, they won but it wasn't pretty at all
Yup. Penalties, lack of called obvious penalties, etc. I don't see this game causing pollsters to jump OSU over us, especially after we shellacked Michigan.
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Pretty much looks like beating a 7-3 Northwestern team without their starting QB in Madison is the only thing that's left to do to get into the Rose Bowl. I'm scared. I remember one year awhile ago we were 10-0 or something and we lost our last 2 games. Don't start partying yet Badgers!!! Leave the champagne and beer for 8 days from now!!
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