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Old 07-26-2012, 11:30 PM    (permalink
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Let me know if it's worth watching, Rosebud. I always tl;dr'd Rand, but I read the crap out of Mises and Hayek. I understand her writings were along the same lines.
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Can't really blame you. Ayn Rand's definitely not someone I recommend, so few people enjoy her work that aren't pretentious douchebags, who read her work thinking of themselves as Howard Rourke or John Galt. But for me the Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged hold special places in my heart because of nostalgia for the place and time were I first read those books, and who I used to talk about her books with.

Plus, past all the furious philosophy is an author who is just awed by the genius that our species sometimes avoids ******* up, and I supersize with that, too often people get caught up ******** on Humanity and Western Civilization, so there's something kinda sweet about just how utterly blown away she is by what Western Civilization hasn't manage to prevent.
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Let me know if it's worth watching, Rosebud. I always tl;dr'd Rand, but I read the crap out of Mises and Hayek. I understand her writings were along the same lines.
Sorta...the economic theories that are at the foundations of both are very similar, but Ayn Rand was much more focused on creating and promoting her Objectivist philosophy, whereas Mises, Hayek and Rothbard were first and foremost, economists and from there got onto some philosophical grounds.

Rand was also much more mean spirited and dismissive of those that didn't agree with her, like when she met Rothbard and wouldn't stop giving him and his wife **** for their faith.
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So I just finished Atlas Shrugged...*sigh*...at least it looked pretty. Unfortunately they hit some of the major issues that arise from trying turn over a thousand pages of allegorical philozophizing into about 3 hours of film footage, part one was a smooth 90 minutes. I understand staying true to the source material, but the dialogue needed to be re-written, just taking bits and pieces from page long soliloquies doesn't work in a film and the lines came off as inhuman and stiff, making it really hard for the actors. What's most upsetting is it didn't need to be this rough, you can hit all the points that need to be hit without undermining the character's focus and drive.

I also probably would've changed it being about trains, didn't actually have as much of a problem with the way the film handled it as I thought I would, but there were better fields to make the work translate better to our time.

Overall I enjoyed it despite the problems, since it wasn't as rough as I was expecting, but god damn are there some real simple changes to the dialogue and the way they speak that would've made it drastically better as a film. As is it's absurdly heavy handed and some of the actors really struggled to make the lines seem human. I'm pretty terrified for how this film is going to handle John Galt's final speech, which was something like 50 pages long in the book.

I guess that may actually be staying truer to the spirit of Ayn Rand than I would've, but her stories would be so much more accessible on the big screen with some oh so simple adjustments.
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So basically......too much Ayn Rand style rape?
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So basically......too much Ayn Rand style rape?
There wasn't even any rape in this movie.

It really is a shame they couldn't get a good writer to actually make the dialogue work for a movie. Ayn Rand works because Ayn Rand wrote thousand page philosophical allegories, like Plato's Republic, you can't use that same dialogue in a film because you don't have hundreds of pages to pontificate and explain yourself.
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Any sex for a woman = rape for Ayn Rand.
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Nah man, you don't understand. According to Ayn Rand; Rape = the most romantic gesture possible, if it's a "great" man that knows that she wants him to rape her. You see.


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finally saw it last night! it was an absolutely beautiful movie with the quirky wes anderson touch to it. must watch imo.
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I actually just watched Rushmore the other night for the first time in a long time. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for that movie. So great. I haven't seen Moonrise Kingdom yet, but it also hasn't been playing near me.
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The watch was ok. Not the best comedy but enough laugh out loud moments. Also a pretty decent twist. If give it a 7/10.
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The mysterious project was originally set up at Fox Searchlight, however, the LA Times reports that the movie will likely premiere on the pay-cable network instead of the big screen. The film will mark David's first feature screenplay since his 1998 comedy Sour Grapes. Of course, the writer has had a longstanding relationship with HBO over the course of Curb Your Enthusiasm's eight-season run, in which he's played a caricature of himself.

The film could also mean the first major comedy role for Hamm, who has made a steady stream of cameos or supporting/guest roles in comedies like Bridesmades, Friends With Kids, 30 Rock and SNL. David's unique brand of situational dialogue could prove to be an excellent vehicle for the Mad Men star.

While a ninth season of Curb has been rumored, it's probable that this movie will push the series' schedule back (should the deal go through).
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I have no idea if this is legitimate or not, but I just came across it. It's not a spoiler, i just tagged it because its long. It regards The Hobbit.

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Holy ******* **** does Cloud Atlas look incredible. I did not think I would come close to anticipating a movie this year as much as The Master but I was wrong. This could very well be the best movie to come out this year and certainly one of the best trailers I have ever seen.



So ******* ambitious. I love it.
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I can agree with you on most of that. I don't know much of anything about the book and there are a lot of movies that could vie for best of the year, but that is darn attractive.
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Reminds me of The Fountain. So, I want to see it.
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Im jealous, I had a similar idea for a movie comp last year that I passed up on because I couldnt fill out the plot in a way that satisfied me. It evolved into the phoenix movie that won the comp though, so I wont complain.

Anyways, looks awesome.
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Reminds me of The Fountain. So, I want to see it.
Yup. I got the same feeling. I ******* loved The Fountain. The fact that the Wachowskis and Tykwer are involved just makes me want to see it even more.
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Yup. I got the same feeling. I ******* loved The Fountain. The fact that the Wachowskis and Tykwer are involved just makes me want to see it even more.
The Fountain is one of my favorite movies, easily top 5, so I am excited for this.
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Im jealous, I had a similar idea for a movie comp last year that I passed up on because I couldnt fill out the plot in a way that satisfied me. It evolved into the phoenix movie that won the comp though, so I wont complain.

Anyways, looks awesome.
Speaking of movie comps. . .
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Holy ******* **** does Cloud Atlas look incredible. I did not think I would come close to anticipating a movie this year as much as The Master but I was wrong. This could very well be the best movie to come out this year and certainly one of the best trailers I have ever seen.



So ******* ambitious. I love it.
Looks decent enough, but I'm still way more excited for Django and The Master.
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