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Old 08-03-2007, 01:39 PM    (permalink
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This is BS, I guess the Russell camp was waiting til CJ was signed before they made a deal. Now that CJ got 27 million in guranteed money, I guess Russell will garner 30. Even though he is less of a sure thing than CJ. He needs to get off his ass in Alabama and be in CA though, because now that CJ is signed, there are no more excuses. He has 3 agents working on the deal and one of them better take control and get this deal done.
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take it easy, he'll be signed in due time and get into camp. I doubt with Daunte now on the roster that Russell will see playing time this year so he'll have at least 17 weeks to get acclimated to the offense and be ready for next year. Also the hang up has not been money, rather how his guaranteed cash would be paid out, much like Beason. His team of agents have also never negotiated something like this, so they'll be looking to get Russell the best deal possible to get further high profile rookies to sign with them down the road.
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i say pay the man what he wants and get him into camp. hes not gonna take any less so might as well get him into camp
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Just heard this discussed on the radio, the hold-up is the exact same clause that the Panthers put in Jon Beason's contract.
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Just heard this discussed on the radio, the hold-up is the exact same clause that the Panthers put in Jon Beason's contract.
it's a good clause. He shouldn't complain, sign the damn paper and keep his act together.
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it's a good clause. He shouldn't complain, sign the damn paper and keep his act together.
What clause is being talked about?
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What clause is being talked about?
basically it says if you don't behave you're screwed.
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basically it says if you don't behave you're screwed.
Ok, I just wanted to be sure. It is just that there is so little being said about this situation and what little is being mentioned is all contradictory. It makes it hard to know what page anyone is on.
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I heard a rumor that the Jamarcus was back in Oakland and talking to management face to face on his contract. Any truth to this...
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Im not a raider guy, but I would be if they told him they didnt need him and throw him back into the draft pool for next year.

Honestly at this point, I would cut bait with him. Save the money. I think he will be a bust. Even if I am wrong, how far back has he set himself.


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Quick question....do the Raiders get anything if they toss his ass to the curb....
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woah he still isnt signed?????
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there are a lot of rumors heating up that he will be signed soon and walter will be traded/released. i honestly don't care when he signs because it's not like he'll play a down this year anyway,which is a good thing. theres a lot of negative pub about him, people on this site have even said they don't like him because of the way he talks lmao.
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I dont like him (well he's a good guy, but i dont think he's that good) because how many times do you throw the ball 60 yards downfield. So its great that he can throw far, but most deep passes hardly require 30 yards. So really accuracy means more in the nfl than throw power. But if Russell does sit a year it will do wonders for him like it has Palmer, Campbell and others
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I'm still not off the JR bandwagon and I think he was the right pick in the draft for us. Signing Daunte allows us to sit JR for the entire season will also possibly allowing us to win a few games.

PS - I've heard that boths sides are a mere $2 million in guaranteed money apart.
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Wonder whats the deal with JR why isnt this getting done ...... everyone else got there deals done even players who didnt seem like were gonna get there deal done like LJ and Samuel ....... hmm Raiders better get him in there soon
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I'm tired of this crap JR!!!! Just sign already.
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He will sign their just all in some stupid yadayada contract chess match...just watch out if injury prone Culpepper does get injured could be bad...or you can get a magical pro ready Ben Roethlisberger type...I hear they come every couple classes...but that is what i woulda said last season before he started to look like some kind of delayed bust....
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Stupid question by me but, Has he signed yet? The Raiders front office has to be kicking themselves for not being able to work out a deal yet
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no and as Al Davis said its ridiculous.Russell's agents originally asked for 30-32 in gurantees.We offer them 31.Then they say they want 35 and some stupid option bonus on top of that which makes no sense at all.hes only losing money now.
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no and as Al Davis said its ridiculous.Russell's agents originally asked for 30-32 in gurantees.We offer them 31.Then they say they want 35 and some stupid option bonus on top of that which makes no sense at all.hes only losing money now.
I hate to say it but do you think maybe they are trying to get more guarenteed money is because even his agents know he's going to be a bust?
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Possibly I think part of the option bonus was there because they wanted it for an eventual cut.I dont know the only thing Ive really heard about it was a week or two ago saying they met face to face in LA.But since then nothing has become of it.
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Sources tell the Sacramento Bee that JaMarcus Russell is unlikely to sign his rookie deal before Week 1.

The Raiders claim they've met Russell's monetary demands. The rookie's camp says Oakland should give Russell more money up front to guard against injuries or an eventual release. The sides met face-to-face early in the week, but it doesn't appear to have facilitated much progress.

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According to ESPN, Russell's Uncle says the deal is almost done.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3006376

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If he were to sign this weekend do you think there'd still be any chance of him playing this year? I think the Raiders need to keep him on the bench to prove a point that no one player is too important to miss all of preseason with a contract holdout
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