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Old 09-06-2007, 01:45 AM    (permalink
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If he were to sign this weekend do you think there'd still be any chance of him playing this year? I think the Raiders need to keep him on the bench to prove a point that no one player is too important to miss all of preseason with a contract holdout
Knowing Al Davis... Anything is possible. If he signs before Sunday and the Raiders are 2-12 entering their last two games, he will be the starter. Anything more than 4 wins guarantees he will never start, but 4 or less might allow him to.
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Knowing Al Davis... Anything is possible. If he signs before Sunday and the Raiders are 2-12 entering their last two games, he will be the starter. Anything more than 4 wins guarantees he will never start, but 4 or less might allow him to.
It just seems that if theye were to let him play at all this year it'd be sending out the message to future draft picks "Hey, hold out for all you're worth. There's a spot waiting for you when you get here"
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It just seems that if theye were to let him play at all this year it'd be sending out the message to future draft picks "Hey, hold out for all you're worth. There's a spot waiting for you when you get here"
And why would they care what message they send to future draft picks. If it is in their best interests to start Russell they should because it is more the system's fault than Oakland's that there was such a long holdout. Oakland did try to lowball Russell, but their should have never been contract talks in the first place, just give them there money based on draft order and this mess would have never happened in the first place. =D
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He'll have to sign soon because hes starting to lose game checks now that the season is about to begin. He wasnt losing money during the preseason, but now that the season is starting, he's losing big money. I dont know about the reports from JR's uncle, but if I was JaMarcus I'd tell my agents to get my ass in a auniform so I could maximize my football AND financial potential for the year. The Raiders have all the leverage now. I honestly dont even care at this point, since he wont play this year anyway, I just want him to get in so the players can develop a relationship with him.
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if hes not signed today or 2marrow he will probably never be signed by us
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I really am sick of this just trade his ass to Atlanta for a 1st rounder.Sign CPep for the next couple of years.
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I really am sick of this just trade his ass to Atlanta for a 1st rounder.Sign CPep for the next couple of years.
I think you've already missed the trading window for unsigned draft picks. At this point, you can sign him or let him go back into the draft next year. Those are the only options left.
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the word is an agreement has been made they just have to finalize it. it should be official within a few days i'm guessing.
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the word is an agreement has been made they just have to finalize it. it should be official within a few days i'm guessing.
I hope you're right, just like some of the other stuff you told me during the offseason.
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I dont like him (well he's a good guy, but i dont think he's that good) because how many times do you throw the ball 60 yards downfield. So its great that he can throw far, but most deep passes hardly require 30 yards. So really accuracy means more in the nfl than throw power. But if Russell does sit a year it will do wonders for him like it has Palmer, Campbell and others
It's not his distance, it's the velocity, which is VERY important. He also his pretty damn accurate as well, probably moreso than Quinn. He's not some guy with a rocket arm he can't control.
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the word is an agreement has been made they just have to finalize it. it should be official within a few days i'm guessing.
Yeah it's about time. Even though I hate the Raiders, I was a Russell supporter, so I still wanna be right. As long as he sucks against the Broncos.
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I believe they said during the Raiders/Lions game that he is expected to sign a contract within the next couple of days.
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they keep on saying that though and still nothing has happened.
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Alright, so both The Rumor Monger (Schefter) and Jay Glazer are reporting that Russell is going to sign today. What do you guys think about that?
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Do you guys really still call Shefter the "rumor monger"? Wasn't it because he reported that the Raiders were going to fire Art Shell after the season? Didn't they fire Art Shell after the season?

Good job on getting Russell signed though. He's going to be a beast in a year or two.
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Do you guys really still call Shefter the "rumor monger"? Wasn't it because he reported that the Raiders were going to fire Art Shell after the season? Didn't they fire Art Shell after the season?

Good job on getting Russell signed though. He's going to be a beast in a year or two.
he signed? Numbers?
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At this point, I would offer a lot less money than before. It would probably be smart to sign him, but I am mad at him. I think everyone wanted to see him play.

If he did not sign for a significant amount of money, I would let him sit there and take out loans all year.
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http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_6854458

31 million guaranteed. very happy it wasn't 35 or 36 like his agents demanded.
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Hes sucessfully ruined his first year.what an idiot this is what we originally offered.
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6 years, $61 million, $32 million guaranteed

According to http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...40813162&ATT=5
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thank god. hopefully he can get in a few games at the end of the season
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Do you guys really still call Shefter the "rumor monger"? Wasn't it because he reported that the Raiders were going to fire Art Shell after the season? Didn't they fire Art Shell after the season?

Good job on getting Russell signed though. He's going to be a beast in a year or two.
Haha, most of us do it just for fun. There aren't enough good nicknames out there so when something creative (whether or not it's true) comes up, it is always nice to take it and run with it.

And yes, he was was right in his reporting that Shell would be fired. But that doesn't mean it's any less of an awesome nickname for someone.

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Originally Posted by RaiderNation View Post
thank god. hopefully he can get in a few games at the end of the season
I have to agree with this. If he doesn't, this season has to be seen as a totally lost season and about $15 million free for the guy. If he's not starting, he's not going to be practicing with the first string and as a result he won't get much practice at all so he will still be a n00b (yes, I really just used the term to describe a football player) when next training camp rolls around. However, if he starts a couple games at the end of the season, not only is he getting more practice time, but he is getting invaluable live game experience that he can use as a building block for the 2008 season.
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