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Old 08-03-2007, 11:27 PM    (permalink
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The New York Giants defensive end was running out of time to break Mark Gastineau's 17-year-old record of 22 sacks in a season. Strahan was stuck on 21-1/2.

With just 2:42 left in the fourth quarter of Strahan's final game of the 2001 regular season, the Green Bay Packers led the Giants 34-25. Packers quarterback Brett Favre called a running play, then tried a "naked bootleg" play by rolling out to Strahan's side without a blocker.

When confronted by Strahan, Favre flopped and gave up the record sack uncontested. Since Favre had joked about Strahan's record quest before the game suggesting a side deal between the two could be arranged the achievement appeared dubious.

"I just react to what happens," Strahan said after the game. "He was booting out on the same play earlier and I missed him, as far as containing and keeping him in the pocket. This time he went down and I hopped on him. What am I supposed to do? Get up and say, 'Brett! Why didn't you throw it?'"

Further diminishing Strahan's "record" is Deacon Jones' unofficial mark of 26 sacks earned before the NFL kept such statistics......
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That is utter BS. If you ever watch the replay, Favre is just protecting himself by not taking the full extent of the hit. He has not played in so many consecutive games by taking straight on hits from defenders. And people also fail to realize that even without that sack, 21.5 sacks in one season is pretty impressive. This is probably the dumbest article ever just for that one story. I know that I'm being very homerish, but would it have been better if he intentionally ground the ball, so that Strahan didn't get the sack. Would that make people happier?

Here's a quote from Strahan after the game: "This time he went down and I hopped on him. What am I supposed to do? Get up and say, 'Brett! Why didn't you throw it?"
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That is utter BS. If you ever watch the replay, Favre is just protecting himself by not taking the full extent of the hit. He has not played in so many consecutive games by taking straight on hits from defenders. And people also fail to realize that even without that sack, 21.5 sacks in one season is pretty impressive. This is probably the dumbest article ever just for that one story. I know that I'm being very homerish, but would it have been better if he intentionally ground the ball, so that Strahan didn't get the sack. Would that make people happier?

Here's a quote from Strahan after the game: "This time he went down and I hopped on him. What am I supposed to do? Get up and say, 'Brett! Why didn't you throw it?"
I disagree, Farve gave Strahan that record. I like Strahan and hate gastineau but Farve completly gave Strahan that record.
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It's Deacon Jones' record regardless.
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Anybody who thinks that sack was legitimate isn't looking at it from an objective or accurate point of view. Somebody please show me a tape where Favre ever went down that easy at any point in his career. The two players even exchanged words before that very play. And when do you ever see teams that are leading by 9 with 2 minutes left go to the air?

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"That was classy of Brett to do that," veteran Giants offensive tackle Lomas Brown said, referring to what he perceived as Favre's generosity on the play.

"That was called as a running play," Franks said. "I don't know if it was a bad snap or what. I was run blocking. I didn't know it was a pass."
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I disagree, Farve gave Strahan that record. I like Strahan and hate gastineau but Farve completly gave Strahan that record.
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did he really mention Lance Armstrong's 7 straight as tainted because the french hate him? seriously, the guy never tested positive for anything and he's "tainted." what a douche.

Also Favre totally layed down for that and everybody was pissed afterwards, including game announcers.
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did he really mention Lance Armstrong's 7 straight as tainted because the french hate him? seriously, the guy never tested positive for anything and he's "tainted." what a douche.

Also Favre totally layed down for that and everybody was pissed afterwards, including game announcers.
Barry Bonds never tested positive...
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His gigantic cranium did.
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did he really mention Lance Armstrong's 7 straight as tainted because the french hate him? seriously, the guy never tested positive for anything and he's "tainted." what a douche.

Also Favre totally layed down for that and everybody was pissed afterwards, including game announcers.
I agree about Armstrong, its really unfair to him that he's been accused of something he never did
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But there's plenty of circumstansial evidence. He's grown more at the end of his career than the normal human grows during puberty, that's not normal and something is obviously going on to cause that to happen.
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personally Nykesha Sales record would be the most... i dont know.. i just wouldnt want it that way
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personally Nykesha Sales record would be the most... i dont know.. i just wouldnt want it that way
She deserved it though, she would have beaten the record by a good amount, but she got hurt one basket short, I think it was ok.
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I dont hold anything against Barry Bonds. What he did was PERFECTLY FINE when he did it. He has never tested positive under the new drug testing system that has been brought out. Sure maybe taking steriods was not morally correct but it wasnt AGAINST THE RULES FOR MLB. I personally think that the HR he hit were PERFECTLY FINE. His records should stand. That is the point that no one is getting. It wasnt illegal at the time he took it. Hes on his way to be the HR King in my books.
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I dont hold anything against Barry Bonds. What he did was PERFECTLY FINE when he did it. He has never tested positive under the new drug testing system that has been brought out. Sure maybe taking steriods was not morally correct but it wasnt AGAINST THE RULES FOR MLB. I personally think that the HR he hit were PERFECTLY FINE. His records should stand. That is the point that no one is getting. It wasnt illegal at the time he took it. Hes on his way to be the HR King in my books.
I meant New York Giants fans... dammit.
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She deserved it though, she would have beaten the record by a good amount, but she got hurt one basket short, I think it was ok.
she did deserve it but i mean... i wouldnt have been able to do it i dont thin... but thats just me
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but has admitted to "accidental" use in grand jury testimony...
I still will always think that Armstrong took something... Call me a hater, I have no proof so I'm not going to rip Armstrong or say I know he cheated, it's just a gut feeling, mixed with people by him who said he cheated.
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I still will always think that Armstrong took something... Call me a hater, I have no proof so I'm not going to rip Armstrong or say I know he cheated, it's just a gut feeling, mixed with people by him who said he cheated.
by people "by him" do you mean the jealous french people who hated more than anything the fact that he was american and then slandered him by accusing him of steroids or doping? You are being a hater, what he did was amazing, the only thing that set him apart from other riders was the fact that he had 1 testicle, which could have made him more aerodynamic. Other than that, Lance did that all his own.
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Have to agree. That was definitely a fumble. The Tuck Rule is b.s.

I also agree with the Strahan sack record and the Bonds scandal. If I was Hank Aaron I wouldn't show up at any of his games either.
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:13 PM    (permalink
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I still will always think that Armstrong took something... Call me a hater, I have no proof so I'm not going to rip Armstrong or say I know he cheated, it's just a gut feeling, mixed with people by him who said he cheated.
The circumstantial evidence in Armstrong's case is just as bad as Barry Bonds'. He dominated a sport that has rampant steroid use. The odds of him keeping up with all the other cheaters, inherently, is to level the playing field. Not to mention all of the witnesses who attest to his use, like his former masseuse, fellow teammates, his personal assistant who found Androstenine in his Apartment, a physician whom Armstrong allegedly confided in. There is a major cloud around Armstrong, no doubt about it. I am highly skeptical of the achievements that he, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens have had.
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Dallas' 99 Stanley Cup. Bah.
LOL, I remember that goal like it was yesterday. I'm not even a hockey fan but I was caught up in the hype during that series, watched every second of it. Brett Hull is the man :).

With this and the Superbowl losses, I don't see how any person from buffalo could ever stand a somebody from Dallas :).
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