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Old 12-19-2008, 07:56 AM    (permalink
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Most "guaranteed" money comes in the form of defferred roster bonus money that a player may or may not ever see. A franchise tag is straight up guaranteed cash.
BTW...

Guaranteed money is exactly that. Guaranteed.

If a player signed a 5 year 50 million dollar contract with 20 million guaranteed, then as long as he doesnt mess up off the field, he will get the 20 million no matter what. He might never see the other 30 million but guaranteed money is money that has to be paid.

Hence the term "dead money" when you cut players from the roster. There would be no such thing as dead money if they all had non-guaranteed contracts.
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10 Million to sign is not too horrible. We are talking about Justin Smiley money at that point.

But 20 million guaranteed is a huge deal.

That's Joey Porter territory.

That's a pretty sizeable contract.
Porter was given 12 million to sign, with a base contract of roughly 4 million per year. If Carey could get a deal like Porter's he might be inclined to sign, but the difference is very minimal (10 million and a chance at FA in a year or 16 million and being stuck under a 5 year contract with a 4 mil base salary the next four years).
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I haven't gone through the last 60 pages to see if this has been discussed or not, but I was hoping to get a little evaluation on Jake Long and Phillip Merling. How are they doing so far?
So they must be doing terrible if no one is willing to talk about them.
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So they must be doing terrible if no one is willing to talk about them.
Long has been pretty lockdown most of the season, not perfect but done a very good job, gets a little sloppy from time to time. Merling has been a situational guy most of the season, has looked good in spurts but we won't really be able to tell much about him until next season.
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Porter was given 12 million to sign, with a base contract of roughly 4 million per year. If Carey could get a deal like Porter's he might be inclined to sign, but the difference is very minimal (10 million and a chance at FA in a year or 16 million and being stuck under a 5 year contract with a 4 mil base salary the next four years).
I'm talking about guaranteed money.

Who cares how much he gets to sign. If he gets tagged, there is no signing bonus. He just gets 10 million guaranteed.

Porter got 20 million guaranteed (12 to sign and another 8 in other money) and that's how much Carey would be looking at.

I mean everything your saying is the exact opposite of how players feel.

Why do you think players get upset at getting tagged every year? Because if they get hurt the year they are tagged all they get is that 10 million tag number. But if they sign a long term deal and get 20 million guaranteed, then when they get hurt then walk away from the game with 20 million instead of 10.

Your confusing a signing bonus is guaranteed money.
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Long has been pretty lockdown most of the season, not perfect but done a very good job, gets a little sloppy from time to time. Merling has been a situational guy most of the season, has looked good in spurts but we won't really be able to tell much about him until next season.
They were going over Long's numbers on the radio the other day.

He has given up 3 sacks all season and has had 3 false starts. Not bad at all for a rookie starting at LT all season. He has been rock solid.

Merling has looked pretty good. 3-4 ends aren't big numbers producers but he has held up very well against the run backing up Vonnie Holliday and has gotten pressure on the QB in spurts. He hasn't had to really do a ton this season since he shares time with Holliday, Langford and Starks but he has looked very promising when he is in there.
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Hey guys, is there any news as to whether Crowder can go today?
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PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!! Oh my goodness.
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Congrats, you deserved it. Give credit to Huizenga for spending the money and getting the management team. It all starts in the Front Office and works its way down.

BTW, what is Jason Taylor doing this off season? I hear he gets lots of respect in DC for his dancing skills! Him and the GM are BFF. LOL!
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Does Ginn not return punts anymore?
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He does some times but not most of the time. He let a majority of them bounce and when he did return them he didn't do anything.
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Ginn is good for 1 solid play per game. Thats it.

He'll come up with 1 big catch, or one nice run or 1 solid return. Never a combination and rarely does he he string together a bunch of catches. What a wasted pick. He shows so much promise but he has seriously regressed since earlier in the year. I would not mind one bit if we traded him for a 2nd rounder in next years draft but I doubt anyone would pay that and taking any less isnt worth it. Better to hope he pans out.
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Ginn is good for 1 solid play per game. Thats it.

He'll come up with 1 big catch, or one nice run or 1 solid return. Never a combination and rarely does he he string together a bunch of catches. What a wasted pick. He shows so much promise but he has seriously regressed since earlier in the year. I would not mind one bit if we traded him for a 2nd rounder in next years draft but I doubt anyone would pay that and taking any less isnt worth it. Better to hope he pans out.
I think that's a little harsh. I actually think he's shown progress as the season has gone on as a WR. He's not consisted, but he's not being a pansy like he was earlier.

IMO he does struggle when we put him in on kick returns as he tries to east-west way too much rather than just going up field.
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I think that's a little harsh. I actually think he's shown progress as the season has gone on as a WR. He's not consisted, but he's not being a pansy like he was earlier.
Progress?

I think he's regressed. Big time. For a little stretch in the middle of the yea, he was getting alot of balls throw his way and was some plays. He had a couple real good games.

As the year has gone on, he has lost more and more PT to Brandon London and Devone Bess as well as losing his return duties.

He has gone backwards. Not progressed.

And yes, he's still a pansy like he was earlier. How many times is he gonna slide so a defender wont hit him? He's a damn WR and he doesn't even try to make people miss or get any YAC
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Right now nobody has signed up to be the GM of the Dolphins and there is also an expansion team in this forum mock. So go check it out. Signups are scheduled to end Sunday night.

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Hey guys, how do you see this one goin down!??

I am SOO PUMPED for this game!! I really hope we win!!
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Definitely going to be a close game if the defense can step up. Can't have any mistakes like we had the last 2 weeks if we want to have a chance.
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Well it was a nice run. Got a lot of work to do this offseason.
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Can't be too upset, it was still a great season. The most fun I've ever had as a Dolphin fan. I love this team!
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Can't be too upset, it was still a great season. The most fun I've ever had as a Dolphin fan. I love this team!
Yeah, you guys had a really good season. Your team made one of the best transformations from bad to good in a season that I have ever seen. You guys should be proud, and you have a lot to look forward to.
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Quick question. Has De'Cody Fagg already worked out for you? If so, how'd he do? I've been trying to find some info on this but can't seem to find any, and maybe you Dolphins fans have some sites where his results might have been posted.

FYI, De'Cody Fagg was the WR that suffered a nearly-career-ending knee injury in last year's combine and recovered less than two months ago. So far he supposedly had private workouts for a couple teams, and I know the Dolphins were one of them.

Here's a link on some info of him if you wanna read it:
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/colle...icle975122.ece
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Quick question. Has De'Cody Fagg already worked out for you? If so, how'd he do? I've been trying to find some info on this but can't seem to find any, and maybe you Dolphins fans have some sites where his results might have been posted.

FYI, De'Cody Fagg was the WR that suffered a nearly-career-ending knee injury in last year's combine and recovered less than two months ago. So far he supposedly had private workouts for a couple teams, and I know the Dolphins were one of them.

Here's a link on some info of him if you wanna read it:
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/colle...icle975122.ece
Go check the Herald.com, Sun-sentinel.com and Palmbeachpost.com

articles about his workout on all 3 sites.

His agent says the workout went great and spewed a bunch of agent mumbo jumbo about how good the kid is. Miami coaches and staff didn't feel the same way because he didn't offer him a contract and we are desperate for WRs.

Hope the kid does well and best of luck to him. But if he couldnt even get a camp contract with us, hes not likely to stick anywhere else either.
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