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Old 08-14-2007, 09:48 AM    (permalink
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Yup, Coughlin is definately #1. Its gonna take a miracle for him to save his job. And making the playoffs isn't good enough. Reese made it very clear that if this team doesn't do damage in the playoffs, he'll be disappointed (ie he's gonna fire Coughlin unless he goes to the NFC championship game bc he doesn't like him and only kept him bc it was the only way the Giants would hire him as a GM).


And yeah....I don't see that happening. Taking this Giants team that far would require alot of smoke and mirrors trickeration from the coaching job, ala 2006/2007 Jets, but this staff is far too unoriginal to adjust. Coughlin won't adjust his belt buckle let alone his playbook or playcalling. And the talent on the roster isn't good enough to overcome that as well. This team has average talent (from what we see so far) with below average coaching. Of course, Im doing a complete 180 from last year and being a major pessimist this year, but hey, I still make valid points.
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Figuratively dead in the water:
Tom Coughlin, New York Giants

Head coaches on the legit hot seat:
Jon Gruden, Tampa Bay Buccaneers- needs to get to .500 at the very least
Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars- Del Rio has to get to the playoffs to keep his job, the Jags are probably the most talented team in the league
Brian Billick, Baltimore Ravens- the overrated blowhard doesn't have any more excuses now that the team brought/signed Willis McGahee, if the offense doesn't considerably improve for the better (and actually be able to win a playoff game like the defense definitely can) then he needs to get canned
Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns- needs to get to .500, Quinn might help buy him another year though

Head coaches a (bad) year away from the 2008 hot seat:
Brad Childress, Minnesota Vikings
Gary Kubiak, Houston Texans

Who should be on the hot seat, but won't ...
John Fox, Carolina Panthers- he's got years and dollars on his current contract that the frugal Panthers owner won't eat, although I think he should be fired for wasting all that talent; Fox should stick to being a defensive coordinator, he's much better in that role
Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers- the Packers will be one of the worst teams in 2007 and contend for the first overall pick in the 2008 Draft

Head coaches nearing retirement:
Joe Gibbs, Washington Redskins- likely replaced by Bill Cowher
Tony Dungy, Indianapolis Colts?
Bill Belichick, New England Patriots?
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:13 PM    (permalink
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Figuratively dead in the water:
Tom Coughlin, New York Giants

Head coaches on the legit hot seat:
Jon Gruden, Tampa Bay Buccaneers- needs to get to .500 at the very least
Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars- Del Rio has to get to the playoffs to keep his job, the Jags are probably the most talented team in the league
Brian Billick, Baltimore Ravens- the overrated blowhard doesn't have any more excuses now that the team brought/signed Willis McGahee, if the offense doesn't considerably improve for the better (and actually be able to win a playoff game like the defense definitely can) then he needs to get canned
Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns- needs to get to .500, Quinn might help buy him another year though

Head coaches a (bad) year away from the 2008 hot seat:
Brad Childress, Minnesota Vikings
Gary Kubiak, Houston Texans

Who should be on the hot set, but won't ...
John Fox, Carolina Panthers- he's got years and dollars on his current contract that the frugal Panthers owner won't eat, although I think he should be fired for wasting all that talent; Fox should stick to being a defensive coordinator, he's much better in that role
Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers- the Packers will be one of the worst teams in 2007 and contend for the first overall pick in the 2008 Draft

Head coaches nearing retirement:
Joe Gibbs, Washington Redskins- likely replaced by Bill Cowher
Tony Dungy, Indianapolis Colts?
Bill Belichick, New England Patriots?
Thats a ridiculous assumption, Coach Billick is not going anywhere and the rumors need to stop. He signed a 4 year contract extension back in January of this year:

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Commo...e.aspx?id=2440
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It's been 9 years since Holmgren left the Packers already? Wow.
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Thats a ridiculous assumption, Coach Billick is not going anywhere and the rumors need to stop. He signed a 4 year contract extension back in January of this year:

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Commo...e.aspx?id=2440
Personally, I hope Billick remains as the head coach of the Ravens for years to come.
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Personally, I hope Billick remains as the head coach of the Ravens for years to come.
He's the greatest coach in the history of the franchise, yes I know short history and he's only the 2nd head coach, has a winning record, won a Super Bowl in his 2nd season, and his adored by the fans and the owner, Coach will continue to be the coach of this team for as long as he wants. He has the swagger and attitude that are perfect for this city and fanbase and now apparent has the pieces in place to break out more of his offense. There is no hope of Coach staying, its a fact.
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So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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Crennell will be gone in Cleveland. I hate when people act like Phil Savage, the GM is on the hot seat aswell. Phil is doing wonders for our team specifically in FA and the draft. Just look at our 1st round picks without him compared to with him. Better yet he allways finds a stud in RD2 etc...

Bill Cowher will be our head coach next year mark it down. Hes got the 3-4 deffense he likes in place with some solid young talent and he opened his career up in Cleveland and loved it. It might cost around 7-10 mill a year to get him in which case you almost have to make him your GM with total control.
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Crennell will be gone in Cleveland. I hate when people act like Phil Savage, the GM is on the hot seat aswell. Phil is doing wonders for our team specifically in FA and the draft. Just look at our 1st round picks without him compared to with him. Better yet he allways finds a stud in RD2 etc...

Bill Cowher will be our head coach next year mark it down. Hes got the 3-4 deffense he likes in place with some solid young talent and he opened his career up in Cleveland and loved it. It might cost around 7-10 mill a year to get him in which case you almost have to make him your GM with total control.
You just contradicted yourself with that post............
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It's laughable that Nolan is on this list. Might as well throw Belichick on there as well. He hasn't won in 2 years.
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It's laughable that Nolan is on this list. Might as well throw Belichick on there as well. He hasn't won in 2 years.
Bellicheck in the last two years = 22-10, 3-2 in the playoffs

Nolan in the last two years = 11-21

You're right that is laughable.
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It's been 9 years since Holmgren left the Packers already? Wow.
I thought that myself, I was a little suprised at how long Holmgren has been in Seattle. Not a whole lot to show for it other than that one trip to the Superbowl.
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Nolan also inherited what was likely the worst roster (and maybe even franchise) in the league at the time of his hiring. He's not anywhere close to the hot seat imo.
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Bellicheck in the last two years = 22-10, 3-2 in the playoffs Patriots, nuff said

Nolan in the last two years = 11-21 rebuilding 49ers

You're right that is laughable.
you can't compare the two.
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Let's also throw out Dick Jauron in Buffalo.
He's been our best coach since the turn of the millenium in my eyes. I don't think he's at all on the hot seat in his 2nd year, and if we're not atrocious with our young team then I surely want him as our coach heading into a bright 2008.
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Bellicheck in the last two years = 22-10, 3-2 in the playoffs

Nolan in the last two years = 11-21

You're right that is laughable.
So ...... you're basing the hot seat on wins/losses only? In that case, Nolan should be fired immediately. In the real world, Nolan's job is quite secure. Care to make a wager?
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I'd put Joe Gibbs higher but, it looks pretty good. And good job.
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I think Nolan and Lewis both have a year before they are on the hot seat. Nolan has done well with minimal talent so he will probably get at least two chances to fail with a better roster. Lewis is the same for me. He hasn't been great, but he hasn't screwed up enough to warrant anything this year.
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So what happens to Norv Turner if the Chargers somehow don't make the playoffs this year. With a team that loaded with talent isn't Norv already on the hotseat to make some noise in the playoffs.
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So what happens to Norv Turner if the Chargers somehow don't make the playoffs this year. With a team that loaded with talent isn't Norv already on the hotseat to make some noise in the playoffs.
He could be just a stop gap coach but it would depend on the circumstances on why they won't make the playoffs. I mean if they were decimated with injuries then probably not, but if they just underperformed then possibly.
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Damn I totally forgot about Marvin Lewis. He was supposed to be 7th but it slipped my mind.

Wade is a possibility but if the Cowboys struggle I don't see the logic in promoting from within. Then again they did hire Dave Campo.

I love Brian Billick. He can do no wrong in my book. Same with Jeff Fisher.

I like marvin lewis a lot, if he just gets his head on straight with regard to not bringing in low character guys, he can be a great HC. It was just a few years ago the Bengals were hopeless.
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On a somewhat unrelated note, I hate it when people make top X lists and then cram 2 choices into one selection. It's your list, just make it the top X+1 list rather than trying to be sneaky or something...
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He's been our best coach since the turn of the millenium in my eyes. I don't think he's at all on the hot seat in his 2nd year, and if we're not atrocious with our young team then I surely want him as our coach heading into a bright 2008.

no way Juaron is in danger unless the team just falls off the deep end. The players like him and Marv Levy is pretty patient and knows that this is still a developing team. I cant see Juaron getting fired unless the bills go 5-11 or worse, but i dont expect that whatsoever.
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So ...... you're basing the hot seat on wins/losses only? In that case, Nolan should be fired immediately. In the real world, Nolan's job is quite secure. Care to make a wager?
Nolan's job is secure now. If he only wins 4-5 games it is not. And no I don't care to make a wager because I don't know or care who you are and likely won't remember this thread past tomorrow.
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