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Old 08-30-2007, 08:26 AM    (permalink
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According to the announcers last night.. Nocioni, Manu and Oberto are all playing.
According to me watching every single game they are not, neither is Pepe Sanchez, so maybe you misheard, and yeah too bad Esteban Batista was released by the Haws cause he is dominating this tournament, and the guy who asked about Rubio, this is the FIBA Americas championship, Euro Championship starts in September, but he's only on the Spanish U21 team, no way in heck he would make the senior team with Calderon, Navarro, Spanish chocolate Sergio Rodriguez, and solid Cabezas, 3 of those 4 are NBAers, all are capable starters though JCN can play the 2 ahead of Rudy Fernandez.
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Does anyone honestly believe Argentina will put up a challenge to USA?
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Does anyone honestly believe Argentina will put up a challenge to USA?
With the way the USA is playing I don't think anyone in the Western Hemisphere can compete with them
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:39 PM    (permalink
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i really doubt it, i mean its possible, but this is the first time in a while we have had a "team", rebounders, three point shooters, defense, guys who can take it to the bucket. very complete team
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i really doubt it, i mean its possible, but this is the first time in a while we have had a "team", rebounders, three point shooters, defense, guys who can take it to the bucket. very complete team
You said it bro.. Now if you were to put all those into categories how would this years team compare to THEE Dream Team?
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I just noticed something, why isn't Tmac on the team?
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What USA is doing to argentina is just ridiculous. Anyone see Melo's dunk?
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T-Mac is too injury proned...he needs this time to rest. His back is in awful shape.
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Old 08-31-2007, 12:26 AM    (permalink
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I just noticed something, why isn't Tmac on the team?
they dont need a team of 12 shooters, thats what cost them in 2002. This team is perfect, they have rebounder's, inside, outside shooters, defense, a great pg, to lead a team full of all stars. guys like tyson chandler and dwight howard are huge keys to the team because they don't look to score, just block, and rebound, they know there role. the scores we do have on our team are all different in their respective games. why would we want a another kobe, not just another kobe, a worse one, who has a worse jumper and doesn't play any defense whatsoever? you cant look at like oh **** he scores a lot of pts why isn't he on the team, thats why gilbert arenas isn't in las vegas right now
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T-Mac is too injury proned...he needs this time to rest. His back is in awful shape.
even if he was healthy, i doubt he would be on the team
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they dont need a team of 12 shooters, thats what cost them in 2002.
Sorry DChess but the reason we lost in 2002 was because we had NO shooters. We had all scorers and slashers and no one could hit any outside shots. Every team just played a massive pack it in zone and watched as we missed jumper after jumper.

Someone get Chandler off this team though, replace him with Bosh or Duncan/KG if you can convince them.
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This team isn't perfect by any means. Not enough of an inside presence, and not enough smart shooters. Mike Miller just wants to be a superstar, Redd chucks up whatever he sees, and well, that's about everyone. I still believe Miller was a terrible choice. They're vastly improving over time here, though. I can't say I like Chauncey on the team though. He's not all too fantastic of a shooter, and not especially made to pass in this system (not that he seems to really want to), so I don't think he offers all too much beyond some above-average defense. I think they could have found better people than Miller and Billups to fill those spots that would have been willing.
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You said it bro.. Now if you were to put all those into categories how would this years team compare to THEE Dream Team?
We might never see another team like The Dream Team but aslong as were better then everyone else im satisfied...
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This Olympic team is great, next year don't add anyone, no Dwade, no Marion, no Duncan, no Arenas, no Bosh. Keep the same team but take off either Billups or Deron and add Al Jefferson for interior scoring, but we all know that won't happen guys like Dwade and Bosh are locks for the team but I don't like either as fits, Dwade can't shoot or pass his skills aren't needed, and Bosh floats to the perimeter too much.
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Sorry DChess but the reason we lost in 2002 was because we had NO shooters. We had all scorers and slashers and no one could hit any outside shots. Every team just played a massive pack it in zone and watched as we missed jumper after jumper.

Someone get Chandler off this team though, replace him with Bosh or Duncan/KG if you can convince them.
yeah i meant scorers my bad
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this team is winning because theey mesh perfectly. Tyson and Howard grab boards, and outlet to the best passing and fast break PG in JKidd, who can dish to 3 EXPLOSIVE guys in melo, bron, and kobe...
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USA is unstopable right now I don't think anybody is going to beat them any time soon.
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We lost to Greece! The Charlotte Bobcats wouldnt lose to Greece. USA is no longer unstoppable and this FIBA America's cup has no good teams in it so I wouldnt use it as that much of a barometer. Argentina has their B/C squad out (who we only beat by 15) and Brasil is even missing players. Wait till we start playing the Euro powers who seem to give us fits.
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No need to diss the Bobcats...
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We lost to Greece! The Charlotte Bobcats wouldnt lose to Greece. USA is no longer unstoppable and this FIBA America's cup has no good teams in it so I wouldnt use it as that much of a barometer. Argentina has their B/C squad out (who we only beat by 15) and Brasil is even missing players. Wait till we start playing the Euro powers who seem to give us fits.
Nah bro Greece would crush the Bobcats, Diamantidis, Theo Papaloukas, Greek Shaw Sofoklis they are the ish. BTW Brazil is only really missing Varejao. And with Argentina people don't realize that they could really beat USA we only beat them by 15 but they are missing 5 starters, and 5 NBA players, Manu Ginobili, Andres Nocioni, Fabreeze Oberto, Walter Herrman, and Pepe Sanchez, when you think about that talent and how they play together that is deadly.
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Ya like i said.. not very impressive. Bobcats could beat that.
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Seriously. Why the Bobcats? Let's replace them with the Hawks.
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Seriously. Why the Bobcats? Let's replace them with the Hawks.
Hawks will make the playoffs this year, Jsmoove, Marv, Joe Johnson, Zaza, Josh Childress, Shelden Williams, Al Horford, Acie Law, Salim, Tyronn, Speedy, hopefully Esteban, Kings are the worst team in the league IMO. Kevin Martin is the only stud, a bunch of washed out stars and another softie in Spencer Hawes.
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Hawks will make the playoffs this year, Jsmoove, Marv, Joe Johnson, Zaza, Josh Childress, Shelden Williams, Al Horford, Acie Law, Salim, Tyronn, Speedy, hopefully Esteban, Kings are the worst team in the league IMO. Kevin Martin is the only stud, a bunch of washed out stars and another softie in Spencer Hawes.
Haha. I was just joking. But regardless of the fact that they're my team, I think the Bobcats have a solid shot at making the playoffs. Felton will dazzle.
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