My team-by-team top ten player rankings

[bearsfan_51]

Considering you're a Bears fan, that's pretty bad. Hester 3rd? Vasher 5th? No no no....

[KCJ58]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Considering you're a Bears fan, that's pretty bad. Hester 3rd? Vasher 5th? No no no....

he made a typo Rex Grossman should be #1

[BuckNaked]

How are Darren Sharper and Bryant McKinnie not on this list, yet Cedric Griffin and Chad Greenway are?

[Crazy_Chris]

Bryant McKinnie is #5 Buck... But Darren Sharper Definatly needs to be on here so does E.J. Henderson IMO

[ChiFan24]

Yeah, I knew my fellow Bears would have problems with my list. The consensus list would probably be something like this:

1. Urlacher
2. Harris
3. Kreutz
4. Brown
5. Briggs
6. Tillman
7. Vasher
8. Hester
9. Tait
10. Brown/Berrian/any DE

IMO, people severely underrate Hester's impact on a game. He single handedly wins the battle for field position. Even when he doesn't touch the ball, our drives start around the 40. When he does touch it, there's a VERY good chance he'll score.

And I'll argue Vasher over Tillman all day. I like both corners, but Vasher is the better of the two, IMO.



I do not like Sharper as a player...I think people get caught up in the turnovers and severely overrate him. Though, looking back, I'll agree I went a little too far ranking Greenway and Griffin ahead of him.

[bearsfan_51]

Originally Posted by ChiFan24

Yeah, I knew my fellow Bears would have problems with my list. The consensus list would probably be something like this:

1. Urlacher
2. Harris
3. Kreutz
4. Brown
5. Briggs
6. Tillman
7. Vasher
8. Hester
9. Tait
10. Brown/Berrian/any DE

IMO, people severely underrate Hester's impact on a game. He single handedly wins the battle for field position. Even when he doesn't touch the ball, our drives start around the 40. When he does touch it, there's a VERY good chance he'll score.

And I'll argue Vasher over Tillman all day. I like both corners, but Vasher is the better of the two, IMO.

I actually think Mike Brown is overrated by most Bears fans, particularly considering that he can't stay on the field for more than half a season.

As for Vasher/Tillman, I like Vasher but there's no question in my mind. Look at the money each player got this offseason and you can tell who the FO thinks is more valuable. My list would probably be (and I'm projecting to next year a bit)

1)Urlacher
2)Harris
3)Kruetz
4)Briggs
5)Tillman
6)Anderson
7)Tait
8)Vasher
9)M. Brown
10)Berrian

I can't justify putting a returner in the top 10. Though I'd probably have him 11th.

[OzTitan]

I'd put Jacob Bell and Bo Scaife on the list before Harper and Simon personally.

[Flyboy]

Good topic.

Your Saints:

New Orleans Saints
1. Jammal Brown, LT
2. Will Smith, DE
3. Drew Brees, QB
4. Reggie Bush, RB
5. Deuce McAllister, RB
6. Charles Grant, DE
7. Marques Colston, WR
8. Jahri Evans, RG
9. Roman Harper, SS
10. Jeff Faine, C

My Saints:

1. Drew Brees, QB
2. Deuce McAllister, RB
3. Jammal Brown, LT
4. Will Smith, DE
5. Jahri Evans, RG
6. Reggie Bush, RB
7. Charles Grant, DE
8. Marques Colston, WR
9. Roman Harper, SS
10. Mike Karney, FB

[MaxV]

Colts:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Bob Sanders
4. Dwight Freeney
5. Reggie Wayne
6. Joseph Addai
7. Jeff Saturday
8. Robert Mathis
9. Marlin Jackson
10. Kelvin Hayden

I hope Tony Ugoh, Freddy Keiaho and other new starters can atleast make a case to be on this list.

[trkaline]

I'll accept your Ravens list...

[Addict]

Originally Posted by MaxV

Colts:

1. Jim Sorgi
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Bob Sanders
4. Dwight Freeney
5. Reggie Wayne
6. Joseph Addai
7. Jeff Saturday
8. Robert Mathis
9. Marlin Jackson
10. Kelvin Hayden

I hope Tony Ugoh, Freddy Keiaho and other new starters can atleast make a case to be on this list.

fixed it for you, weird typo though.

[The Unseen]

Jacksonville Jaguars
1. John Henderson, DT
2. Rashean Mathis, CB
3. Marcus Stroud, DT
4. Maurice Jones Drew, RB/RS
5. Mike Peterson, MLB
6. Daryl Smith, WLB
7. Fred Taylor, RB
8. Khalif Barnes, LT
9. Vincent Manuwai, LG
10. Reggie Hayward, DE

That's a very good list. I might move MJD down a little, but it's good overall.

[nvot9]

Jets rankings seem pretty good. I think Nick Mangold should be on it though, he had one of the best season's of any center last year, he had a better year than D'Brick.

[MicktheGreat]

Originally Posted by ChiFan24

All right, after seeing Peter King's embarassingly bad top 500 players list, I felt obligated to make a top 500 list of my own. I decided that the easiest way to do this would be to compile a team by team top ten list, and then turn that into a top 500 list later. I consider myself pretty knowledgable, but unfortunately, I can't watch every game, so I'm sure there are mistakes. Please point out any GLARING mistakes/omissions that you see with your own team, so I can continue towards my top 500 list. I'm not going to listen to every criticism, since this IS my own list, but I'd like a little help.

Tennessee Titans
1. Vince Young, QB
2. Keith Bullock, WLB
3. Albert Haynesworth, DT
4. Chris Hope, SS
5. Kevin Mawae, C
6. Kyle Vanden Bosch, DE
7. Mike Roos, LT
8. David Thornton, SLB
9. Nick Harper, CB
10. Cory Simon, DT

Not a bad list...depends alot upon whether you're talking "potential" or actual "production."

Here's my list:

1. OLB Keith Bulluck
2. QB Vince Young
3. OT Michael Roos
4. DE Kyle Vanden Bosch
5. SS Chris Hope
6. C Kevin Mawae
7. OG Jacob Bell
8. DT Albert Haynesworth
9. OLB David Thornton
10. CB Nick Harper

VY is the most talented; but Bulluck's still our best player as of right now. However, I could see VY becoming our best player next year. Roos is the best OT that you've never seen play -- he's good in run-blocking, superb in pass-blocking, never gets penalties, and moves really well. I think he'll be a Pro-Bowler this season. Vanden Bosch is a double-digit sack threat every season (if he can get any help on the other side of the DL). Hope is consistently good. Mawae's a Hall-of-Famer and continues to play very well. Bell is a highly underrated lineman who can play every position on the OL (with the exception of left OT) -- I think he'll surpass Mawae as the 2nd best O-Lineman on the team this season. Haynesworth has TONS of potential but is highly inconsistent. Thornton's a good all-around LB. Nick Harper is a solid, reliable CB.

I could see RB Lendale White, TE Bo Scaife, CB Cortland Finnegan, and CB Michael Griffin threatening to make the list as the season progresses...

[OzTitan]

Only way Roos is a pro bowler is if the Titans at least win one playoff game. Pro Bowl OL spots are given to the winners.

[neko4]

For the Packers, but Favre at 10, Collins is still unproven'

For the Redskins, Laron shouldnt be on there and Cooley should be higher.

[WinslowBodden]

No offense but your Browns list is way off...

Cleveland Browns
1. Kellen Winslow II, TE (not bad)
2. Eric Steinbach, LG (too high)
3. Kamerion Wimbley, OLB (#1 defensive player, probably our best)
4. Sean Jones, SS (Right)
5. LeCharles Bentley, C (Not even top 53 as far as im concerned until he gets to play.)
6. Andra Davis, ILB (A bit high for his skill set but not bad.)
7. Gary Baxter, CB (No way, you must be kidding.)
8. Braylon Edwards, WR (Could be 8, he drops alot of passes)
9. Joe Thomas, LT (I don't want rookies on my list)
10. Ted Washington, NT (... You haven't watched Ted Washington in a LONGGGG time.)

1. Kamerion Wimbley (Winslow and Wimbley are interchangeable, but I expect an insane year from Wimbley.)
2. Kellen Winslow
3. Sean Jones
4. Leigh Bodden
5. Eric Steinbach
6. Braylon Edwards
7. Andra Davis (I think he's overrated but he's still our leader.)
8. D'Qwell Jackson
9. Dave Zastudil (I don't care if hes a punter.)
10. Josh Cribbs (I don't care if hes a kick returner.)

No rookies, they haven't done anything yet.

[BrownsTown]

Originally Posted by WinslowBodden

No offense but your Browns list is way off...

1. Kamerion Wimbley (Winslow and Wimbley are interchangeable, but I expect an insane year from Wimbley.)
2. Kellen Winslow
3. Sean Jones
4. Leigh Bodden
5. Eric Steinbach
6. Braylon Edwards
7. Andra Davis (I think he's overrated but he's still our leader.)
8. D'Qwell Jackson
9. Dave Zastudil (I don't care if hes a punter.)
10. Josh Cribbs (I don't care if hes a kick returner.)

No rookies, they haven't done anything yet.

Top 8 looks fantastic, maybe switch Bodden and Jones, I'd say at 9, put Orpheus Roye and at 10, Willie McGinest. Zastudil is a great punter, but...he's a punter. Cribbs, a bit more feasible, but I think he needs to do just a little bit more in actual recieving to be considered top 10 on the team.

[derza222]

Your Jets list isn't bad but could use a couple of changes. D'Brick is far too high, and Mangold should definitely be on that list. He was the one glaring omission. Also I think Rhodes/Vilma is kind of a toss up, but because Rhodes is better in the scheme we're currently in I'd have him on top. Victor Hobson is also very underrated, not only by people in general but by Jets fans as well.

1. Kerry Rhodes
2. Jonathan Vilma
3. Nick Mangold
4a. Laveraneus Coles
4b. Jerricho Cotchery
6. Thomas Jones
7. Shaun Ellis
8. Bryan Thomas
9. Chad Pennington
10. Victor Hobson

Gets a little muddled in the 8-12 area, but Coles and Cotchery are definitely two of the best players on the team because they're just very good all-around receivers and Mangold as I said is a very good player. I don't think D'Brick is top 10 yet, maybe if he makes a step this year but not yet.

[yodapoop]

If Tye Hill is our 8th best player, our season future is bleak.

I'd go

1. Holt
2. Jackson
3. Bulger
4. Pace
5. Little
6. Witherspoon
7. Bruce
8. McMichael
9. Bennett
10. Carriker

Yep, there are only three defensive guys that belong on the list.

[BuckNaked]

Some of your ratings are alright, but i'd definitely tweak it. I'm not going to put AD on there yet considering he hasn't played an NFL snap in the regular season.

1. Kevin Williams
2. Steve Hutchinson
3. Pat Williams
4. Antoine Winfield
5. Darren Sharper
6. Bryant McKinnie
7. Chester Taylor
8. Matt Birk
9. E.J. Henderson
10. Ray Edwards (poised for a breakout season)

[scottyboy]

Originally Posted by yodachu

If Tye Hill is our 8th best player, our season future is bleak.

I'd go

1. Leonard
2.Holt
3. Jackson
4. Bulger
5. Pace
6. Little
7. Witherspoon
8. Bruce
9. McMichael.
10. Carriker

Yep, there are only three defensive guys that belong on the list.

yoda, i fixed it for you. i guess those shower hugs messed up your typing...

[TimD]

Originally Posted by ChiFan24

New York Jets
1. Jonathan Vilma, ILB
2. Kerry Rhodes, SS
3. D’Brickashaw Ferguson, LT
4. Thomas Jones, RB
5. Shaun Ellis, DE
6. Bryan Thomas, OLB
7. Laveranues Coles, WR
8. Chad Pennington, QB
9. Jerricho Cotchery, WR
10. Eric Coleman, FS

you left out Nick Mangold
This would be my Jets order
1. Jonathon Vilma, ILB
2. Kerry Rhodes, SS
3. Chad Pennington, QB
4. Thomas Jones, RB
5. Nick Mangold, C
6. Lavernues Coles, WR
7. Jerricho Cotchery, WR
8. Bryan Thomas, OLB
9. Shaun Ellis, DE
10. D'Brickashaw Ferguson

if you have any major problems and want a guy on there off of the list here's my on-the-bubble guys...

Dwayne Robertson, DT
Leon Washington RB
Victor Hobson OLB
Erik Coleman FS
Brandon Moore RG

no rookies...

[ChiFan24]

I'm definitely going to go back and tweak some of these lists, mostly the AFC. I left a lot of guys off that I just plain forgot (Mangold, Bodden). I guess I was getting a little tired...

[TimD]

Originally Posted by ChiFan24

I'm definitely going to go back and tweak some of these lists, mostly the AFC. I left a lot of guys off that I just plain forgot (Mangold, Bodden). I guess I was getting a little tired...

I'd also make a case for Ferguson to be taken off the list... And put Dwayne Robertson on. I know Robertson is not a NT and he is being forced to play it but he is still good. Unfortunately i think DaBrick struggles without Kendall to his right.