My NFL preview - Page 2

awfullyquiet · 09-08-2007, 07:17 PM

one game and you're ready to crown the colts...

if you want to crown them, go ahead and crown their asses...
but they are exactly who we thought they are...

(which is a team with one win against a rather stagnant looking offense this year... i still think with a few weeks the attrition will get to them and they'll look like a bob-sanders-less team with bob-sanders (top five defensive player in the game. you know?))

p.s. i think your hate for pennington is way-overdone. he plays the game. he makes plays. so what if his arm isn't hella strong. it's not like he turns it over all the time overshooting people.

skinzzfan25 · 09-08-2007, 07:21 PM

I don't see what your getting at with the Giants. By getting ~60% of their offensive production displaced this offseason, they benefit? Whether he's a jerk or not, that is a lot of yards falling into other's laps. I just don't think they can make up for that kind of loss this year, especially behind an average line in a 'ground pound' style of the NFCE.

A wildcard spot is not out of the question, if they can stay consistent throughout the year.

gpngc · 09-08-2007, 07:37 PM

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I don't see what your getting at with the Giants. By getting ~60% of their offensive production displaced this offseason, they benefit? Whether he's a jerk or not, that is a lot of yards falling into other's laps. I just don't think they can make up for that kind of loss this year, especially behind an average line in a 'ground pound' style of the NFCE.

A wildcard spot is not out of the question, if they can stay consistent throughout the year.

To the Colts comment- The Colts have been my Super Bowl pick all along. The Saints game had nothing to do with it.

As for this Giants/Tiki comment: 60% of their offensive production displaced? Where did it go? So as Tiki left, 60% of their offensive production left too? When Eli goes to hand the ball off, Tiki won't be there- so they won't gain ANY of that 60% this year! OH NO!

Just because you get "worse" on paper doesn't mean you can't improve. Tiki Barber is more talented than Droughns/Jacobs. I'd still rather have Droughns/Jacobs because of the chemistry factor.

TimD · 09-08-2007, 07:43 PM

its kinda weird having guys that just joined and have less than 25 posts doing these big write ups...

awfullyquiet · 09-08-2007, 07:44 PM

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its kinda weird having guys that just joined and have less than 25 posts doing these big write ups...

they wanna copy all of us cool kids.
wait. i still haven't done mine yet.
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skinzzfan25 · 09-08-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

To the Colts comment- The Colts have been my Super Bowl pick all along. The Saints game had nothing to do with it.

As for this Giants/Tiki comment: 60% of their offensive production displaced? Where did it go? So as Tiki left, 60% of their offensive production left too? When Eli goes to hand the ball off, Tiki won't be there- so they won't gain ANY of that 60% this year! OH NO!

Just because you get "worse" on paper doesn't mean you can't improve. Tiki Barber is more talented than Droughns/Jacobs. I'd still rather have Droughns/Jacobs because of the chemistry factor.

You should probably finish reading, as I said the displayed yards fall into other's laps. What I was trying to say was that if you have a starting back who failed to get over 800 yards, and a questionable 16 game every play back (he's a great goalline/#2 back, he needs to prove himself), I'd be worried.

And I'd take pure talent over a "chemistry factor" any day. When Eli turns around, he's not going to have Tiki. Or on passing downs as his safety valve. He's going to have to make plays for himself. To me, that too big of a question to declare them the winners of the NFCE.

bearsfan_51 · 09-08-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

To the Colts comment- The Colts have been my Super Bowl pick all along. The Saints game had nothing to do with it.

As for this Giants/Tiki comment: 60% of their offensive production displaced? Where did it go? So as Tiki left, 60% of their offensive production left too? When Eli goes to hand the ball off, Tiki won't be there- so they won't gain ANY of that 60% this year! OH NO!

Just because you get "worse" on paper doesn't mean you can't improve. Tiki Barber is more talented than Droughns/Jacobs. I'd still rather have Droughns/Jacobs because of the chemistry factor.

Just so you know, Droughns was dropped to 3rd on the depth chart, I doubt he'll be a factor this season at all.

princefielder28 · 09-08-2007, 08:03 PM

rookie RB out of Nebraska = Brandon Jackson

awfullyquiet · 09-08-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

To the Colts comment- The Colts have been my Super Bowl pick all along. The Saints game had nothing to do with it.

it's ridiculous then.
i mean, you can't lose half your defense and say, i'm gonna win the super bowl again?

what are the chances of them repeating according to standard statistical odds? and yeah. so, the colts rampaged over a mediocre defense. big deal. i give you till week five to see the amount of close games over real mediocre teams. like, the texans and titans, while they may not win. will definitely show that the colts are highly impregnable on defense. with or without bob sanders. they're susceptible to the run and to the pass. have first year CB's that will be beat by the end of the season plenty of times with a bit of game-tape on them.

basically all it takes to beat the colts is to run against them and control the clock, for some reason, one of the better rushing attacks in the league, couldn't do that. go figure. where did sean peyton's brain go, who knows.

gpngc · 09-08-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by awfullyquiet

it's ridiculous then.
i mean, you can't lose half your defense and say, i'm gonna win the super bowl again?

what are the chances of them repeating according to standard statistical odds? and yeah. so, the colts rampaged over a mediocre defense. big deal. i give you till week five to see the amount of close games over real mediocre teams. like, the texans and titans, while they may not win. will definitely show that the colts are highly impregnable on defense. with or without bob sanders. they're susceptible to the run and to the pass. have first year CB's that will be beat by the end of the season plenty of times with a bit of game-tape on them.

basically all it takes to beat the colts is to run against them and control the clock, for some reason, one of the better rushing attacks in the league, couldn't do that. go figure. where did sean peyton's brain go, who knows.

My Super Bowl prediction of the Colts is ridiculous? OK. You are entitled to your opinion. I explain why I like the defense even though "they lost half of it".

And Princefielder, I know it's Brandon Jackson. He's on my fantasy team. He better have a monster year.

TacticaLion · 09-08-2007, 08:18 PM

gpngc... great post. Well done. Most repeat the same predictions, but you actually went against the grain.

Now, to the section on the Lions:

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Lions- I want to pick them to win the division, I really do. But I just can't. Calvin's not ready, Jon Kitna is Jon Kitna, and they have no secondary. Other than that, this is a sleeper candidate. They'll win some games, but like the rest of this division, it won't be pretty this season. 6-10ish.

Calvin doesn't seem to be ready... but I think he'll get there. They'll give him time to feel comfortable, so the first 2-4 games wont be spectacular. If he happens to be ready "in time", we could surprise some teams.

"Jon Kitna is Jon Kitna", sure... but he performed well last year. Most of all, he performed without help from his OLine (the most sacked QB in the NFL)... yet played every snap. He understands the offense and is a great leader... something we need right now more than anything. CJ, Dell and Buckett, the OLine acquisitions and another year in the system can only help him.

But... you're right... we have absolutely no secondary. Wilson is showing flashes of potential, but is young and raw. Bullocks was ready to take the next step, but now he's gone for the season. Kennedy doesn't fit... at all... and Bryant is injury prone... which leaves us with 2 rookies: Frampton and Alexander. Ugly. A Cover 2 can usually get away with average CBs, but not a horrible secondary.

Bottom line: you're right on target. Anything is possible, but I think we'll grab 7 wins.

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Who are you?

Are you serious? Why is that relevant? He needs to be "known" to have an opinion about the upcoming season? Grow up. Get over yourself. Next time, just don't post.

The Great Jonathan Vilma · 09-08-2007, 08:27 PM

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You must be a young Jets fan...

Have you ever seen the annual Jets draft day gaffe clips on ESPN?

Recently the Jets drafts have been amazing compared to what they used to be...

i beleive its new management, so those are old and dark days. i am a younger Jets fan, but i do know of those, but was not the Jet fan i am today. I beleive it has been long enough to forget of those :)

Shiver · 09-08-2007, 08:49 PM

You have more trust in the Falcons than I do. I think Atlanta is in the middle of a rebuilding season. I expect 6 wins, tops.

bearsfan_51 · 09-08-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticaLion

Are you serious? Why is that relevant? He needs to be "known" to have an opinion about the upcoming season? Grow up. Get over yourself. Next time, just don't post.

Read a lot into that didn't you? I just wanted to know who he was and why he'd been here for a few months without ever posting. I actually agree with a lot of what he said, especially the Niners being ungodly overrated. He didn't seem to have a problem with what I said, why are you ******** your pants? Oh that's right...you're a douche. I must have missed where you were elected online hall monitor.

By the way...his post is also a good example how you can be 'unconventional' and not look ********. You should take notes, as basically any post you've made outside of the Lions forum you've been called out for being a moron.

yodapoop · 09-08-2007, 09:01 PM

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Care to share some constructive criticism, angry Packers fan?

No, actually an angry Rams fan. That is all.

gpngc · 09-08-2007, 09:06 PM

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No, actually an angry Rams fan. That is all.

Come on. As a Seahawks fan, I never had the opportunity to get into it with a Rams fan... lets go... I thought all summer that the Rams would be this years Saints- but now I'm going with my heart (and it helps that your defense makes me want to vomit)...

In all seriousness, the Hawks were VERY lucky to win those two games thanks to the trusty leg of Josh Brown last year. Had those games gone the other way, the Rams could've easily won the division. That's the kind of stuff I look at when making predictions- what breaks, if they go the other way, could affect the outcome of the season... I say this with as much hate as I can as a Seahawks fan, but I think the Rams have a great shot at the playoffs this year and are a Super Bowl darkhorse.

yodapoop · 09-08-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

Come on. As a Seahawks fan, I never had the opportunity to get into it with a Rams fan... lets go... I thought all summer that the Rams would be this years Saints- but now I'm going with my heart (and it helps that your defense makes me want to vomit)...

In all seriousness, the Hawks were VERY lucky to win those two games thanks to the trusty leg of Josh Brown last year. Had those games gone the other way, the Rams could've easily won the division. That's the kind of stuff I look at when making predictions- what breaks, if they go the other way, could affect the outcome of the season... I say this with as much hate as I can as a Seahawks fan, but I think the Rams have a great shot at the playoffs this year and are a Super Bowl darkhorse.

U mentioned the anti christ in a post, I'm not sure if I can talk to u.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 09-08-2007, 09:10 PM

Only Tubby mentions him. THIS GUY IS TUBBY.

yodapoop · 09-08-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CutlerChris

Only Tubby mentions Josh Brown. THIS GUY IS TUBBY.

I THOuGhT WE WERE BOYS....................WHY DID U PUT HIS NAME IN A POST?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????

gpngc · 09-08-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CutlerChris

Only Tubby mentions Josh Brown. THIS GUY IS TUBBY.

I assure you I am not Tubby nor do I know who Tubby is.

BuckNaked · 09-08-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by yodachu

I THOuGhT WE WERE BOYS....................WHY DID U PUT HIS NAME IN A POST?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????

We're still good, right Yoda? I won't mention he who shall not be spoken.

yodapoop · 09-08-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

I assure you I am not Tubby nor do I know who Tubby is.

U don't want to.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 09-08-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yodachu

I THOuGhT WE WERE BOYS....................WHY DID U PUT HIS NAME IN A POST?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????

Please forgive me oh Yoda! I edited the post. I am so sorry.

yodapoop · 09-08-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckNaked

We're still good, right Yoda? I won't mention he who shall not be spoken.

Yes, I don't wanna be traded from Las Vegas.

bearsfan_51 · 09-08-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gpngc

I assure you I am not Tubby nor do I know who Tubby is.

Damn...he used the word assure. Would Tubby know what assure means? I don't know...