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Anyone still wanna take shots @ Romo?
Most everyone on this board knows of what I'm talking about. Indeed, most have been guilty of doing it at some point during the off-season.
"NFL defenses figured him out"
"He was a one-month wonder"
"Overrated"
"He really only had four or five good games"
"There's no way he deserved to go to the Pro Bowl"
"He was horrible during the last month of the season"
and, of course, the newest and funniest member
"He has never faced a really good defense"
So who wants to come clean?
3 games. 3 wins. NFC passing leader. Just 2 TOs. Countless broken ankles.
Listen, I get it. People were f-ed off because Romomania was shoved down their throats. His hype was loud and obnoxious, and came on the heels of a mighty brief run of excellence. The backlash that came was to be expected, at least to a certain extent.
However, the foolish--and mostly false--anti-Romo rhetoric that went around here and across the net has now been put into perspective. I never expected anyone to kneel down and worship him as the second coming, nor do I/we think that he has no flaws. But it was pretty obvious, even after last season, that Romo was a very good QB that had an excellent chance of being a franchise-type for the Dallas Cowboys.
Of course, arguing against people who have made up their minds based upon a collage of NFL Live segments and agenda driven opinion columns is practically useless, so all that the faithful had as recourse was to sit and wait for the time when the rubber would hit the road. That day is today.
I think its only fair that all the extremely outspoken critics come in and eat their share of crow for their transgressions. Of course, the road ahead holds many pitfalls and mistakes for Tony, but I think at this point that it can no longer be argued that he was a flash in the pan, or that he did not deserve the recognition that he has received at times in the past.
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That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
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09-24-2007, 01:57 AM
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I don't even know why we're waiting, put Casper in there now imo.
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09-24-2007, 02:01 AM
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once he breaks up with kelly underwood then maybe people will like him. until then.
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09-24-2007, 02:03 AM
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That's funny, because most everyone here wanted to kick him to the
not too long ago.
How about we just go in between and admit that the naysayers were FOS? Fair enough?
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09-24-2007, 02:07 AM
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I want to take a picture with his bust.
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09-24-2007, 02:13 AM
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"He really only had four or five good games"
"There's no way he deserved to go to the Pro Bowl"
"He was horrible during the last month of the season"
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I don't see how Romo doing well now changes any of this. Tony Romo has stepped up and become a very good, fringe top flight QB. That doesn't change the fact that he made the pro-bowl based on a few nationally televised performances and the dearth of lack of quality Quarterbacks in the NFC and in general didn't look good at the end of the season. He was a question mark heading into the season and has thus far answered the challenge. That doesn't mean that those statements were or are wrong.
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09-24-2007, 02:32 AM
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I tend to agree with shiver, even if he is a falcon's fan, he is right. ;) j/k
Romo wasn't that great last year, but has improved vastly these few games.
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09-24-2007, 02:39 AM
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I think going through an offseason after he has seen the NFL and knows he was going to be the starter was a BIG help
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I tend to agree with shiver, even if he is a falcon's fan, he is right. ;) j/k
Romo wasn't that great last year, but has improved vastly these few games.
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He did have the 3rd highest QB rating at the end of last year with QB's with atleast 325 attempts...behind only Peyton Manning and Drew Brees....I would say thats good company.
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09-24-2007, 02:45 AM
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Granted, but the other factors were still correct, he played poorly in a number of situations and didn't deserve to go to the probowl.
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09-24-2007, 02:47 AM
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He did have the 3rd highest QB rating at the end of last year with QB's with atleast 325 attempts...behind only Peyton Manning and Drew Brees....I would say thats good company.
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Not to mention the fact that our line struggled greatly last year and TO left a lot of easy yards/TD's on the table with his league leading number of drops. Kinda like Crayton tonight. I don't really care what others think though. People who follow our team knew last year that Romo was a very good QB who had a bright future ahead of him.
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Granted, but the other factors were still correct, he played poorly in a number of situations and didn't deserve to go to the probowl.
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So who deserved to be there in his place?
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09-24-2007, 02:50 AM
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Let's see what happens once defensive coaches have the first four weeks' worth of game film. That doesn't just apply to Romo, but everyone in the league.
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09-24-2007, 02:57 AM
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Let's see what happens once defensive coaches have the first four weeks' worth of game film. That doesn't just apply to Romo, but everyone in the league.
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Yeah I agree. It's a long season and anything can happen. But it's really not difficult to see how good a QB is by just watching him. Romo has a lot of talent and a ton of unquantifiable intangibles that every team wants in its QB. Regardless of what D-coordinators come up with to try and stop the Cowboys, Romo is a top-tier QB in this league at this point in time, imo. He'll certainly suffer his share of struggles this year, but everybody does.
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Romo is doing well, good for him.
He still had no business going to the pro bowl last year. Neither did Vince Young by the way
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09-24-2007, 05:46 AM
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IF YOU WANT TO CROWN HIM THAN CROWN HIM!
But his name still rhymes with ****.
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09-24-2007, 07:24 AM
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I always liked his style. I think he'll always be an on-off type of QB that could have a really bad day out of nowhere but it won't be because of a lack of effort, he seems very fiery and determined which is always good to have at QB plus he clearly has a great arm.
As for last year's Pro Bowl, QB injuries were the reason for both Romo and VY really. It was a depleted field particularly for the AFC. I mean it was basically Romo vs Grossman and VY vs Losman from what I remember.
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09-24-2007, 08:37 AM
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Romo has one of the best pocket presence's in the league. It was amazing what he was doing to escape the rush of the Bears last night.
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As much as I like Romo, everytime I see him, all I can think is, "What a gooberish lookin' guy."
He has big ears too.
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I find it interesting that the Cowboys still haven't extended his contract yet.
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He's the real deal, I don't question that.
But I don't see how this warrants him being a worthy PB candidate last year. That was still off base, because 6 games doesn't warrant pro bowl honors.
Jeff Garcia was more deserving last year.
But yeah, he's the real deal.
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09-24-2007, 12:09 PM
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Only 6 QBs deserved to go to the Pro Bowl last year. 4 from the AFC, River, Palmer, Brady, Manning and 2 from the NFC Bulger, Brees.
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09-24-2007, 12:55 PM
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ummm, who was snubbed of a pro bowl visit then last yr that was an NFC qb...you guys act like it was other guys sitting at home who had earned a visit and didnt get in...Maybe Vince ill buy that, but romo did step in, took a team who was considered done into the playoffs, and he struggled some games, expected for any first yr starter, but his great games over shadowed the bad ones...
but why didnt he deserve to go to the pro bowl? id like to know two qbs who deserved to go over him, otherwise he was obviously deservingly
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ummm, who was snubbed of a pro bowl visit then last yr that was an NFC qb...you guys act like it was other guys sitting at home who had earned a visit and didnt get in...Maybe Vince ill buy that, but romo did step in, took a team who was considered done into the playoffs, and he struggled some games, expected for any first yr starter, but his great games over shadowed the bad ones...
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I have never seen a backup come in after the starter plays poor or gets injured and follow it up with a Super Bowl win... Never, ever, ever, ever. =D
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ummm, who was snubbed of a pro bowl visit then last yr that was an NFC qb...you guys act like it was other guys sitting at home who had earned a visit and didnt get in...Maybe Vince ill buy that, but romo did step in, took a team who was considered done into the playoffs, and he struggled some games, expected for any first yr starter, but his great games over shadowed the bad ones...
but why didnt he deserve to go to the pro bowl? id like to know two qbs who deserved to go over him, otherwise he was obviously deservingly
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Jeff Garcia did it with more games under his resume, with less offensive talent around him (skill positionwise), plus led his team a division title, not just a wildcard. He was more deserving last year.
So Id say Bulger, and Garcia. Hassellbeck played well after he came back from injury too, if you compare Romo's body of work last year to Hasselbeck's, it wasn't all that better if better at all. And in those situations, you give the veteran the benefit of the doubt.
3 Cowboys shouldn't have been PBers last year. Roy Williams, Romo, and Flozell Adams. The 3 Cowboys who were deserving in my eyes were Owens, Ware and Newman. Newman got snubbed.
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