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Old 09-26-2007, 07:06 PM    (permalink
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So Greenbay Scat can you please post the updates of how your friend is doing.
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I do not think I am funny, I just think it is pathetic how people post personal situations here, and also how there are so many friggin pansies on this board willing to hold there ******* hands.

Grow some balls your socialist puszies.
Socialist?
Im far to the other side my friend and I doubt that everyone who posted in here is a socialist. WHats so wrong about getting people to pray for your friend?

Hope this post wasnt to political
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oo man that really sucks dude, ill keep him in my prayers.

I dont wanna barge in but could i also ask for us to keep in our prayers my friend and teammate Blake Browning who suffered a spinal cord injury while making a tackle. He cant move yet but he has recovered speech and is undergoing a number of surgeries
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god bless i just read the story, i think thats great he was going to defend his friend. its really to bad he got hit like that really almost a freak thing.
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I do not think I am funny, I just think it is pathetic how people post personal situations here, and also how there are so many friggin pansies on this board willing to hold there ******* hands.

Grow some balls your socialist puszies.
I also think its a tad weird posting stuff like this on message boards (not having a go at any of you or anything, but that's just me,), but dude, you just said some of the rudest things i've ever heard, you are just a terrible person
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I dont wanna barge in but could i also ask for us to keep in our prayers my friend and teammate Blake Browning who suffered a spinal cord injury while making a tackle. He cant move yet but he has recovered speech and is undergoing a number of surgeries
Will do for sure.
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THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2007 08:56 AM, CDT
Yesterday was an Up and Down day for Jamal. His Nuero surgeon read his CAT scan and concluded that there was no change from yesterday. (This was the UP). No change means, no additional swelling. the swelling and bleeding are still there, but it is not getting any worse.


Jamal also had his first physical therapy session for 15 minutes. The therapist works his feet and legs to keep the joints moving so that they don't stiffen. They also have boot like items strapped around his feet to keep them in an "L" position otherwise his feet would flop over. You can imagine with his size 13 feet that his toes poke out of the top of these boots

Later things were not so good. His pressures increased in several areas and he needed an increased level of the paralytic to bring his systems back down to a comfortable state for where his SICU team needed him to be.

They are not sure of the causes. But the team thinks it might have been RN "Ali". she has a cute smile and a cute voice and his other football mom agreed that Jamal likes cute women. Now Mark his Respatory RN thinks it was really he singing and that Jamal probably doesn't like Sanatana (or she can't sing).

Jamal has a team of people monitoring his vitals 24hr/day. each have a specialty and they have to work together in sync to make sure they keep him in the "Sweet Spot".

The rest of the afternoon was very minimal stimulation, so we did not go back into his room and the lights were dimmed.

He is still critical at this stage and will probably not have his surgery friday. He needs to be able to lie flat for a min. of 2 hrs with-out pressure changes.
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I got some new info about what really happened that day, part is in the OCRegister http://www.ocregister.com/news/malon...5-fight-police but apparently, after he fell, the people started to kick/stomp(she said there was Kidney Damage) on Jamal, then one of the guys went and got a bat(I dont know much more, as their family friend didnt go into detail, understandably) They are trying to get it to Attempted Murder as its just Assult with a Deadly weapon as of now, and possibly a hate crime, as he was black and they were samoan. I thought it was just he hurt his head, but it really wasnt, and to think one of the guys that did this, was on our team and played in our last game. the world is so ****** up


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I got some new info about what really happened that day, part is in the OCRegister http://www.ocregister.com/news/malon...5-fight-police but apparently, after he fell, the people started to kick/stomp(she said there was Kidney Damage) on Jamal, then one of the guys went and got a bat(I dont know much more, as their family friend didnt go into detail, understandably) They are trying to get it to Attempted Murder as its just Assult with a Deadly weapon as of now, and possibly a hate crime, as he was black and they were samoan. I thought it was just he hurt his head, but it really wasnt, and to think one of the guys that did this, was on our team and played in our last game. the world is so ****** up


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This sounds brutal man. Hope your friend gets better. Earl Bennett could save his life in like 3 seconds though, EB has that kind of power ;)
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FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2007 09:27 AM, CDT
All, as you can imagine, it has been a long hard week and it’s not over for us yet. The thing about TBI –“traumatic Brain injury” (yes, it has a name). I’ll explain a bit more later.

First, yesterday, we left him alone as much as possible. His ICP (intracranial pressure) had been increasing. So his team had been working with various methods to reduce this. One method is to release fluid from the brain via the ICP drip. He also had his JP drip removed yesterday. That is this little bulb collector about the size of a big nasal squeegee that mom’s used to use to pull snotty woogies from babies noses. I remember I had one and the suction was not very good. So we use to blow real quickly into Jamal’s mouth when he was a baby and the woogies that were stuffed would come out his nose. And most of you mom’s know who have done this also meant that those woogies were on our cheek and face. Ughh….but the had to get unstuffy. His JP drain was a clear container which allowed you to see if there was still much blood pooling and its clarity. As part of the fluid is blood and the other part is spinal juice that keep the brain lubricated.

I almost forgot, they removed it because there was less fluid under the skin now. This is good.

But (there is always a “but” I am finding out”, they had increased his sedation also because. It seems Mr. JAM metabolizes his sedation meds too fast. So they have had to increase it. It lowered his ICP and worked well. We are all teasing that Jamal seems to be more responsive to the single blond RN’s that work in his room.

Also, Jamal received red blood cells yesterday. ((All, GIVE BLOOD!!!!) they could be using it here for him.)). The red blood cells are used to increase the ability for his brain to get more O2. His ventilator system is about at as high of a % as they want in their mix. I might have said this, but I’ll hit it again quick. They keep his body and brain at a lower temperature to make sure his brain is not working too hard for the rest of his body. The other drugs are there for pain and a paralytic. The combination of these things work in the negative for oxygenation for his brain, so the team has to work up a multifaceted approach to manage his CO2 and his O2. Yesterday the play was called to add Red Blood Cells. Also they gave a Saline solution to help pull fluid from the brain (ICP) to help reduce pressure.

And Oh my gosh, there is this thing called Neuro-Breath that patients get. And yes, Jamal has it. Its from the tubes and saliva around is mouth and from his stomach. I felt so bad for his RN’s. It was worse than the sweaty smell of is football gear and his feet combined. I offered an Airwick or some of those green car trees for them in his room.
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Any news on the kids that did this to Jamal?
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Any news on the kids that did this to Jamal?
they have them in custody and they bailed out, some think they went back to hawaii, but as of now, its all legal, plus if jamal doesnt make it, its gonna be manslaughter/murder instead of assult with a deadly weapon(hopefully attempted murder) its still hazey right now
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they have them in custody and they bailed out, some think they went back to hawaii, but as of now, its all legal, plus if jamal doesnt make it, its gonna be manslaughter/murder instead of assult with a deadly weapon(hopefully attempted murder) its still hazey right now
Don't worry if they went back to Hawaii. With charges like that, any state should be able to extradite them back...I'm no lawyer though...
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Hows everything now?
Also the idiots who attacked your friend are stupid. They ran off to an island, thats part of America...
Anyway I hope they get caught and more so your friend makes it
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SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2007 05:32 AM, CDT

Yesterday, Jamal was critical but relatively stable. His team had only minor adjustments to make to his system levels to keep him in the zone. His ICP stayed at a manageable level. This was a GOOD day!!! We still know at this early stage it’s hour by hour and not only do they watch any signs happening from the injuries, they now need to watch anything new from all of the different intervention levels they have had to take to keep him alive. They watch for Pneumonia since they are breathing for him. They watch for signs of infections that can come in multiple ways. His blood is constantly checked for sugar and other factors that alert them to changes in the body to be prepared to react to. I have told several friends/family that what they are expecting at the moment is too much. He is not about to open his eyes and wonder where he is. The best we can hope for at this stage is that his heart beats calmly. He get a little annoyed and his heart beat rises when he his having his hips flexed. I used to tell him he was lazy about working his bird legs. Even in his coma, he doesn’t want to work out his lower body. Brett and I hit exhaustion levels yesterday. The SICU area is very busy on the weekends. There is so much to do while you feel like you can do nothing but wait. His friends have been here watching the paint dry with us. So many people have lifted up our family during this time. We cannot begin to express fully our gratitude that your love and outpouring has given us. The energy that has been sent our way is truly amazing and I don’t think we could have made it through these days, hours, and minutes with out them. Most of have a hard time asking and receiving help, and we are no different. But, as someone told me when I needed to hear it most, God lives in that SICU area and throughout that hospital. He has constantly sent his earthbound angels to sit next to us, to feed us, to make us laugh with stories, to encourage, and be any possible support. It’s been a long week. Its been a heavy week. I am awake at this moment because this is about the timeframe when he was hurting last Sunday and we were not aware that we were on the verge of losing something extremely precious.



also neko, this was after bail. im sure they just went back to their familys
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Yesterday, Jamal was critical but relatively stable. His team had only minor adjustments to make to his system levels to keep him in the zone. His ICP stayed at a manageable level. This was a GOOD day!!! We still know at this early stage itís hour by hour and not only do they watch any signs happening from the injuries, they now need to watch anything new from all of the different intervention levels they have had to take to keep him alive. They watch for Pneumonia since they are breathing for him. They watch for signs of infections that can come in multiple ways. His blood is constantly checked for sugar and other factors that alert them to changes in the body to be prepared to react to. I have told several friends/family that what they are expecting at the moment is too much. He is not about to open his eyes and wonder where he is. The best we can hope for at this stage is that his heart beats calmly. He get a little annoyed and his heart beat rises when he his having his hips flexed. I used to tell him he was lazy about working his bird legs. Even in his coma, he doesnít want to work out his lower body. Brett and I hit exhaustion levels yesterday. The SICU area is very busy on the weekends. There is so much to do while you feel like you can do nothing but wait. His friends have been here watching the paint dry with us. So many people have lifted up our family during this time. We cannot begin to express fully our gratitude that your love and outpouring has given us. The energy that has been sent our way is truly amazing and I donít think we could have made it through these days, hours, and minutes with out them. Most of have a hard time asking and receiving help, and we are no different. But, as someone told me when I needed to hear it most, God lives in that SICU area and throughout that hospital. He has constantly sent his earthbound angels to sit next to us, to feed us, to make us laugh with stories, to encourage, and be any possible support. Itís been a long week. Its been a heavy week. I am awake at this moment because this is about the timeframe when he was hurting last Sunday and we were not aware that we were on the verge of losing something extremely precious.



also neko, this was after bail. im sure they just went back to their familys

Any updates GBS?
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right now its just a lot of mumbo jumbo, i talked to his mom and she said if he comes out of it, it will be a miracle, since the brain is different for everyone. Honestly i dont know if he'll be jamal again, or just a carrot
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thats really unfortunate man, im not religious but best of luck to him i hope he comes through
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Prayers are with your friend bro.
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