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Old 09-25-2007, 03:12 AM    (permalink
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Then why does this deserve it's own thread? He's probably going to get benched either this week or the next anyway.
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If Wrecks Grossman dosen't pick it up agianst that Detroit's defense he damn well better be benched, oh wait, the Bears alternative QB sucks too.
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If Wrecks Grossman dosen't pick it up agianst that Detroit's defense he damn well better be benched, oh wait, the Bears alternative QB sucks too.
If he is playing against the Detriot defense I will be livid. I mean, if he fails, I wont be, but if he has large sucsess it will be an excuse to leave him in for a few weeks longer based on the "Well Rex can play, look at detriot"
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If he is playing against the Detriot defense I will be livid. I mean, if he fails, I wont be, but if he has large sucsess it will be an excuse to leave him in for a few weeks longer based on the "Well Rex can play, look at detriot"
if he can't get a good game in agaist OUR defense he deserves to be 16th string quarterback in the Arena League it's just that simple.

Those defensive injuries suck though, not so bad for the Lions, but losing Harris, Briggs and Vasher
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Griese is starting this Sunday. Mark it down.

As for the Bears, it seems likely that Harris and Vasher will miss the next 2-3 weeks. It sounds as if Briggs will be ok to go. None of them appear to be season ending.
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As much as I like the Bears and want to see them do well, if they actually start Griese by choice then they deserve what will happen.
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As much as I like the Bears and want to see them do well, if they actually start Griese by choice then they deserve what will happen.
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As much as I like the Bears and want to see them do well, if they actually start Griese by choice then they deserve what will happen.
Somehow I find it hard to believe that Griese will throw 6 interceptions to every 1 touchdown.

I realize Griese comes with his faults, but to me he's a Jon Kitna type. Not very good...but good solid enough to win with good people around him.
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The Tribune expects Brian Griese to start against the Lions, though it seems they have no evidence whatsoever to support their claim (it's not like such inconsequential and trivial matters have stopped or will stop the media).
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u could put the leagues best receivers on the bears and i still think he wouldnt do much better
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The Tribune expects Brian Griese to start against the Lions, though it seems they have no evidence whatsoever to support their claim (it's not like such inconsequential and trivial matters have stopped or will stop the media).
Well I think Lovie not giving the same old "Rex Grossman is our quarterback" spiel is pretty telling. He said he made his decision on Monday and would announce on Wednesday. Why wait if you are just going to reiterate that Grossman is the starter? It doesn't seem like that big of a leap in reasoning even if the evidence isn't definitive.
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NFLN's Adam Schefter is reporting Griese will start against the Lions.

Looks like the Bears have indeed made the change.

(I wonder where Rexy will play next year?)
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Somehow I find it hard to believe that Griese will throw 6 interceptions to every 1 touchdown.

I realize Griese comes with his faults, but to me he's a Jon Kitna type. Not very good...but good solid enough to win with good people around him.
I think Kitna (and, in your opinion, Griese) is better discribed as 'not great, but good enough'
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I wouldn't even go so far as to say good enough, I'll settle with ok at this point. That's what I would consider Kitna or Griese. Ok. I wouldn't put any higher than 20th amongst starting QB's in the NFL though, that's for sure.
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I just hope we don't win too many games to hop out of the Jake Long sweepstakes, allthough Sam Baker wouldn't be a bad consolation prize.
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I wouldn't even go so far as to say good enough, I'll settle with ok at this point. That's what I would consider Kitna or Griese. Ok. I wouldn't put any higher than 20th amongst starting QB's in the NFL though, that's for sure.
wowowowowow kitna is a lot better than you give him credit for, did you see how atrocious the Lions were in Week 2 after he went down?
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wowowowowow kitna is a lot better than you give him credit for, did you see how atrocious the Lions were in Week 2 after he went down?
Kitna has been in the league for years, he's always been average.

The difference is that your backup is J.T O'Sullivan, a guy who couldn't even beat out Chris Leak for the 4th QB on our depth chart (Chris Leak is currently bagging groceries at the local Walgreens by the way).

Martz's offense, with those weapons, and throwing the ball 40 times a game is going to produce a lot of stats and points, but Kitna is still average, and still turns the ball over like it's his job.
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as long as you can protect him. if he starts getting beat up, he becomes far more ineffective than the average nfl qb.
I'll settle for ineffective over a QB who plays like he put money on the opposing team. Jesus everytime they replay that clip of him floating the ball into three defenders I want to ram my head into a wall. Its almost identical to the one in the Superbowl that clinched the game for the Colts.
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i'm not disagreeing he'd be better, but i mean ineffective like he sees the defensive line running towards him and he freezes like a deer in headlights.
So be it as long as he holds onto the ball. Although I wonder how many games until the majority of idiotic Bear fans start chanting for Orton. The QB carousel continues...
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I just hope we don't win too many games to hop out of the Jake Long sweepstakes, allthough Sam Baker wouldn't be a bad consolation prize.
Hush. You guys haven't looked THAT bad... us on the other hand is a different story.
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Heres the breakdown:

Our receivers have went from decent-good last year to 2004 or 05 versions this year. Just plain terrible. O-line looks slow and weak. Pass protection is pathetic. Benson cant block to save his life. Ron Turner is at least half-devil. Devin Hester is a God who plays Satan on certain Sundays.

Oh and our D is getting exhausted.

All that plus a QB who has a hard time reading defenses, cant get a rythm with his receivers, cant scramble at all, and doesnt know how to throw away from defenders.
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