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Old 01-09-2012, 01:32 PM    (permalink
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I heard, yeah. I just dont buy that the clause is 10 million. Someone would have bid for him already if that was the case. If it is 10 million, I'm sure Ashley is scrambling to renegotiate the contract as we speak to bump the clause up. If Demba leaves, I'm pretty sure it won't be for 10 million, probably closer to 30 or 40. Just doesn't make sense to me that the clause is for 10 and we haven't received bids.
Apparently its not 10 mill but its less. Harry Redknapp was asked whether Demba Ba has a 10 mill release and he said "I think you will find it is a lot less than that. and when asked if it was less than 7 he said "Its even less than that".

It might be because teams only found out about it recently a bit like Yohan Cabaye and it might be because hes at the ACON so he wont be able to move this month.

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Apparently its not 10 mill but its less. Harry Redknapp was asked whether Demba Ba has a 10 mill release and he said "I think you will find it is a lot less than that. and when asked if it was less than 7 he said "Its even less than that".

It might be because teams only found out about it recently a bit like Yohan Cabaye and it might be because hes at the ACON so he wont be able to move this month.

Either way im ******** myslef! :(
Well, if we make it past the January window, I have to think we can get him to agree a new deal with no clause or a higher one. I still find it hard to believe though. As far as I know, teams can still bid on ACN players and I think someone would have taken the plunge. Demba is in Paris now, so negotiations wont be too big a hassle.

Regardless, if players want to leave Newcastle then I want them gone. I have faith in Graham Carr and we both know Newcastle's experiences with signing players that don't have their heart in the club. Now, I would hope to get a bit of value out of Demba at least, but if he wants to be somewhere else then I let him go. We have one of the best scouts in the world working overtime and I'm confident he can work his magic yet again.
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Well, if we make it past the January window, I have to think we can get him to agree a new deal with no clause or a higher one. I still find it hard to believe though. As far as I know, teams can still bid on ACN players and I think someone would have taken the plunge. Demba is in Paris now, so negotiations wont be too big a hassle.

Regardless, if players want to leave Newcastle then I want them gone. I have faith in Graham Carr and we both know Newcastle's experiences with signing players that don't have their heart in the club. Now, I would hope to get a bit of value out of Demba at least, but if he wants to be somewhere else then I let him go. We have one of the best scouts in the world working overtime and I'm confident he can work his magic yet again.
Why would Ba agree to a new deal though? If he wanted it put in in the first place he wouldn't sign a new deal as soon as a team comes looking for him. I couldn't really blame him if he did want to leave though. PSG would probably treble his wages.

Yeah, total faith in Graham Carr! The guy is a genius. It just sucks that we could lose Demba Ba so soon after him joining.
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Why would Ba agree to a new deal though? If he wanted it put in in the first place he wouldn't sign a new deal as soon as a team comes looking for him. I couldn't really blame him if he did want to leave though. PSG would probably treble his wages.

Yeah, total faith in Graham Carr! The guy is a genius. It just sucks that we could lose Demba Ba so soon after him joining.
Cashley goes to Demba and says, "dump the release clause and I double your wages and still sell you this summer". Demba makes a bunch more in the short term and isn't hurt long term as he still gets his big money move. Works for Cashley because he gets 25 million as opposed to 5-7, recouping the wage expense in the transfer fee.
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Cashley goes to Demba and says, "dump the release clause and I double your wages and still sell you this summer". Demba makes a bunch more in the short term and isn't hurt long term as he still gets his big money move. Works for Cashley because he gets 25 million as opposed to 5-7, recouping the wage expense in the transfer fee.
We all know thats never gonna happen though. It will go more like:

"Hey Demba, I know some rich teams want you, but how about I half your wages? No?! You dont want to accept my amazing deal? You obviously dont want to play for Newcastle, so im going to have to sell you. Sorry, but I only want players that want to play for NUFC"
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We all know thats never gonna happen though. It will go more like:

"Hey Demba, I know some rich teams want you, but how about I half your wages? No?! You dont want to accept my amazing deal? You obviously dont want to play for Newcastle, so im going to have to sell you. Sorry, but I only want players that want to play for NUFC"
hmmm.....I actually think Ashley will offer him a significant increase in wages to stay or amend the buyout clause. For the record, while he has made some perplexing decisions, I actually like Ashley a lot.
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hmmm.....I actually think Ashley will offer him a significant increase in wages to stay or amend the buyout clause. For the record, while he has made some perplexing decisions, I actually like Ashley a lot.
Have you followed what mike ashley has done over the last 5 years? What leads you to believe ashley would do this?
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Have you followed what mike ashley has done over the last 5 years? What leads you to believe ashley would do this?
He makes more money in the long run. Look, assuming the buyout is in there at 7 million, he makes 7 million this summer. Doubling Ba's wages probably cost him like 5 million. You dont think that in the summer, with no buyout clause, Ba would fetch over 12 million? Assuming even a decent finish to the season, he absolutely would be up to 18ish if not higher. Ashley wins and Ba still moves at the same time he would have.

I think even if Ba really wanted to leave this summer for PSG that he agrees to this. He gets more money now and while his departure is not guaranteed, it is near a lock as no way Ashley pays those wages for more than half a season. He would have to sell him to keep the financial model in place.
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He makes more money in the long run. Look, assuming the buyout is in there at 7 million, he makes 7 million this summer. Doubling Ba's wages probably cost him like 5 million. You dont think that in the summer, with no buyout clause, Ba would fetch over 12 million? Assuming even a decent finish to the season, he absolutely would be up to 18ish if not higher. Ashley wins and Ba still moves at the same time he would have.

I think even if Ba really wanted to leave this summer for PSG that he agrees to this. He gets more money now and while his departure is not guaranteed, it is near a lock as no way Ashley pays those wages for more than half a season. He would have to sell him to keep the financial model in place.
Its still not gonna happen though. If Mike didnt want to sign the contract in the first place he wouldnt of.
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mancini's been rambling to the press about how he needs more depth on his squad and everyone's been bashing him because of city's outrageous payroll. but the truth of the matter is, many of the contracts are old players who never see action on the pitch. the players that were brought in initially after the sheikh's takeover. players like wayne bridge. lol he gets paid over $110,000 just to go to training sessions.

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Is there a draft in MLS Football? A bit like the NFL where the worst team picks first from the best college players?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_MLS_SuperDraft

This year was 2 rounds instead of 3.
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Ha. Liverpool fans talking about Champions League.
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All Liverpool fans are deluded, when we sold Carroll to them they were going mental trying to rub it in and now when i tell them what a waste of money it was they try and say hes played well :D! And there teams a bunch of racists!
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Good luck making CL Liverpool. Carroll was super overpaid. It was true when he was transferred and it is even truer now.
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Woah there we all agree now that Liverpool overpaid for this piece of **** but there is no way you can hate Liverpool outside of Suarez for some reasons...

Stevie G extension!! I like it
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Woah there we all agree now that Liverpool overpaid for this piece of **** but there is no way you can hate Liverpool outside of Suarez for some reasons...

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1. Craig Bellamy is a c**t
2. Suarez = Racist
3. Kenny Dalglish is an idiot
4. Martin Skrtels face looks like a bumhole
5. They only have one black player and they're getting rid of him.
6. Andy Carroll
7. Their fans are all *****
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Woah there we all agree now that Liverpool overpaid for this piece of **** but there is no way you can hate Liverpool outside of Suarez for some reasons...

Stevie G extension!! I like it
-Kenny Daglish
-Buying Jose Enrique
-Having Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson
-Liverpool being awful as a city
-Mostly, the entire team defending Suarez's racist ass

EDIT: Forgot Bellamy, he is a prick of the highest order

SuperPacker, maybe this erases some doubts regarding departures from Newcastle:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...out-Toon-exits
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