Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > The Locker Room > Off Topic

Off Topic Almost Anything Goes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-15-2012, 03:47 PM    (permalink
Gay Ork Wang
Matt Forte = Baby Marcus Allen
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oktoberfestland
Posts: 19,455
Reputation: 680057
Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud View Post
He was more consistent. But Boateng had a really strong run early in the season. Plus both are still young and developing, with Jerome having the superior upside. Our CB pairing is going to need to grow together so I'd rather give Boateng n Hummels that chance.
I dont know, Boateng has never particularly shown me a lot of flashes. He is absolutely no danger going forward, at set pieces or anything. Badstuber is very very secure with his passing. He may lack a little speed but makes up for it with his superior positioning and less mental mistakes as well as mistakes in general.
__________________

Gay Ork Wang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 03:53 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang View Post
I dont know, Boateng has never particularly shown me a lot of flashes. He is absolutely no danger going forward, at set pieces or anything. Badstuber is very very secure with his passing. He may lack a little speed but makes up for it with his superior positioning and less mental mistakes as well as mistakes in general.
Boateng actually hits nice crosses when he's not trying too hard, even hit some nice ones at the EC. The mistakes thing I agree with though, Boateng does make more mistakes, but both still do, they're very young.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 03:54 PM    (permalink
djp
Team Leader
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 16,229
Reputation: 525356
djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djp View Post
I would start with a pretty good team if you've never played it before. Man City or Barcelona are the two easiest teams to play with in the game. Bayern Munich is also pretty easy, they've got an unreal amount of young talent

Don't play all your best players every game. Use your lesser reputable competitions (such as Carling Cup in England) to play your younger players who need first team action and to keep your players fresh.

Adjust the training schedules so that they are heavy in aerobic/tactics/strength while you are playing your friendlies, then adjust as the season starts.

As far as assigning players to roles, just go through the different player roles, they do a good job of explaining them and telling you which attributes correlate to which role, etc.

PS, it's on sale right now on Steam for $18, normally $30
More tips: Buy Mbaye Niang or Hervin Ongenda, they're both young French strikers who are absolute pace machines playing as poachers once you get a few seasons into the game. I'm also a huge fan of Etienne Capoue as a DM (deep lying playmaker on support is the role I have him on). Carlos Fierro is another striker who turns into a monster in my opinion. He's a bit more spendy than Niang or Ongenda.

Also, don't listen to your backroom advice on just about anything unless it makes sense to you. They are often very, very wrong on who should be taking set pieces, individual training focus, etc.

My Liverpool 11 (Playing 4-3-3 on Control) is:


Andre Schurrle - Giuseppi Rossi - Luis Suarez
Steven Gerrard - Isco
Etienne Capoue
Jack Robinson - Sebastian Coates - Ryan Shawcross - Loris Nery
Pepe Reina

Some of my notable subs : Daniel Agger, Carlos Kameni (bargain backup keeper, he's a beast), Martin Kelly, Jordan Henderson, Glen Johnson, Jose Enrique (splits time w/ Robinson), Raheem Sterling, Mbaye Niang, I have Bojan on loan from Barcelona since he can play all three forward positions

I play a shorter passing style w/ Suarez/Schurrle as inside forwards

Gerrard is declining at a rapid rate, so I've targeted Kwadwo Asamoah as his replacement since Asomoah is a much better defender and Isco isn't too keen on playing defense, which I deal with because of his playmaking ability. Guy feeds my forwards absolute dimes on the reg.
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."

Last edited by djp : 07-15-2012 at 04:10 PM.
djp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 03:56 PM    (permalink
Gay Ork Wang
Matt Forte = Baby Marcus Allen
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oktoberfestland
Posts: 19,455
Reputation: 680057
Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud View Post
Boateng actually hits nice crosses when he's not trying too hard, even hit some nice ones at the EC. The mistakes thing I agree with though, Boateng does make more mistakes, but both still do, they're very young.
yes, but as a CB he wouldnt hit crosses.
__________________

Gay Ork Wang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:02 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang View Post
yes, but as a CB he wouldnt hit crosses.
True, but one the Badstuber's best qualities is being able to whack long balls to the wingers out wide, that's a skill Boateng has. He may seem to get complacent and make mistakes a little more, but again, both do that cause both are still very young.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:24 PM    (permalink
Gay Ork Wang
Matt Forte = Baby Marcus Allen
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oktoberfestland
Posts: 19,455
Reputation: 680057
Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

badstuber is stronger in the air also
__________________

Gay Ork Wang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:26 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang View Post
badstuber is stronger in the air also
Only when his positioning is better. Boateng is stronger and gets up higher when he's in the right place.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:31 PM    (permalink
SuperPacker
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: awkward
Posts: 11,063
Reputation: 2237213
SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Really Rob? Carroll? 13 million?

I'm pretty sure we could buy someone better suited to us than him for 13 million. Carroll hasn't played well for the last year, would probably just take us back to kicking the ball up the pitch every time we get it and tbh, I don't think he's that good.

If we we're gonna go Carroll and Cisse upfront, it would mean dropping a man out of the midfield, which I don't like the sound of. Or pushing Cisse out wide, like we did with Ba, which I definitely don't like the sound of. Either way I think we lose something from last seasons team. And all for 13 million? Not worth it IMO.
__________________



RIP themaninblack
SuperPacker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:43 PM    (permalink
Rob S
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast food
Posts: 24,211
Reputation: 4093934
Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperPacker View Post
Really Rob? Carroll? 13 million?

I'm pretty sure we could buy someone better suited to us than him for 13 million. Carroll hasn't played well for the last year, would probably just take us back to kicking the ball up the pitch every time we get it and tbh, I don't think he's that good.

If we we're gonna go Carroll and Cisse upfront, it would mean dropping a man out of the midfield, which I don't like the sound of. Or pushing Cisse out wide, like we did with Ba, which I definitely don't like the sound of. Either way I think we lose something from last seasons team. And all for 13 million? Not worth it IMO.
I wholeheartedly disagree. With the going rate of strikers, 13 million is an absolute steal. I do rate Carroll and think he is a bargain at that price. Luuk DeJong is valued at over 15 and I'll take Carroll over him every day of the week.

Now, it does present some challenges in terms of formations because I don't like pushing Cisse out wide. We would have to go crazy offensive to get Carroll, Cisse and Ba on the pitch at the same time. Even if we can't, as I mentioned, AFCON could see us lose both BA and Cisse and Carroll is much, much better than Shola as our 3rd striker....
__________________
When I eat, it is the food that is scared.
Rob S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:44 PM    (permalink
djp
Team Leader
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 16,229
Reputation: 525356
djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18850955 Liverpool says no to loaning Carroll. Rather sell him on the spot
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."
djp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:47 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

LdJ may not be as proven since he hasn't played in a major league yet, but he's shown better passing skills and instincts if his skills do translate. Plus he's able to show up out of the box more often. Kinda like another Striker that got sold for a total in the low teens, Mario Mandzukic. Carroll is a lot more like Bas Dost, who Wolfsburg replaced Mandzukic with, and he went for something like 8 million euros.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 04:49 PM    (permalink
SuperPacker
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: awkward
Posts: 11,063
Reputation: 2237213
SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob S View Post
I wholeheartedly disagree. With the going rate of strikers, 13 million is an absolute steal. I do rate Carroll and think he is a bargain at that price. Luuk DeJong is valued at over 15 and I'll take Carroll over him every day of the week.

Now, it does present some challenges in terms of formations because I don't like pushing Cisse out wide. We would have to go crazy offensive to get Carroll, Cisse and Ba on the pitch at the same time. Even if we can't, as I mentioned, AFCON could see us lose both BA and Cisse and Carroll is much, much better than Shola as our 3rd striker....
Other than score a few headers for us two years ago, what has Carroll actually done? We got Cisse for 9 million... It is definitely possible to get a better striker than Carroll for 13 million or less.

So we're paying 13 million for a player that we can only start in January and in cup games? That doesn't make sense. If we're keeping Ba, we should bring in one or two younger strikers, that can challenge Shola for the 3rd striker role. That 13 million could be better spent improving the rest of the squad. We still need to bring in a full back and Debuchy could end up costing 6 million +.
__________________



RIP themaninblack
SuperPacker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:19 PM    (permalink
Rob S
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast food
Posts: 24,211
Reputation: 4093934
Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperPacker View Post
Other than score a few headers for us two years ago, what has Carroll actually done? We got Cisse for 9 million... It is definitely possible to get a better striker than Carroll for 13 million or less.

So we're paying 13 million for a player that we can only start in January and in cup games? That doesn't make sense. If we're keeping Ba, we should bring in one or two younger strikers, that can challenge Shola for the 3rd striker role. That 13 million could be better spent improving the rest of the squad. We still need to bring in a full back and Debuchy could end up costing 6 million +.
I still disagree wholeheartedly. I can't type up too much because I'm on my phone. Anyway, if graham Carr thinks Carroll is a good buy at 13 million, I trust the man and you should too. No way he gets behind shelling out that kind of dough if he doesn't rate a player or thinks there is a better, more cost effective option.
__________________
When I eat, it is the food that is scared.
Rob S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:22 PM    (permalink
SuperPacker
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: awkward
Posts: 11,063
Reputation: 2237213
SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob S View Post
I still disagree wholeheartedly. I can't type up too much because I'm on my phone. Anyway, if graham Carr thinks Carroll is a good buy at 13 million, I trust the man and you should too. No way he gets behind shelling out that kind of dough if he doesn't rate a player or thinks there is a better, more cost effective option.
Yeah, that's a good point. 'In Graham Carr we trust'. But I still disagree with you.
__________________



RIP themaninblack
SuperPacker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:35 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

According to Berbatov, SAF would let him leave for 5 mil, that's way better than Carroll at 13, although Carroll would probably be happier coming off the bench than Ba.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:38 PM    (permalink
Rob S
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast food
Posts: 24,211
Reputation: 4093934
Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud View Post
According to Berbatov, SAF would let him leave for 5 mil, that's way better than Carroll at 13, although Carroll would probably be happier coming off the bench than Ba.
Carroll is 23. Berbatov has maybe 2 years left of playing at a European standard. Maybe. Man u rejects generally bust, SAF rarely sells useful Players on the cheap.
__________________
When I eat, it is the food that is scared.
Rob S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:41 PM    (permalink
SuperPacker
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: awkward
Posts: 11,063
Reputation: 2237213
SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperPacker is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Yeah, Berbatov would be even worse.
__________________



RIP themaninblack
SuperPacker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:44 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob S View Post
Carroll is 23. Berbatov has maybe 2 years left of playing at a European standard. Maybe. Man u rejects generally bust, SAF rarely sells useful Players on the cheap.
How much better can Carroll really get? He's not going to replace Cisse, and if you go to a more traditional two ST formation to accommodate him, you're still stronger with Cisse and Ba as the striker pair than Cisse and Carroll. Berba would at least give you a bigger boost in the mean time at a lower price while you try to get yourself some CL football, spend that extra money to build a stronger team and give you time to find another young striker to replace Ba or Cisse. I just don't think Carroll brings you any closer to a CL spot, whereas Berba can, at a lower cost as well.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:48 PM    (permalink
Rob S
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast food
Posts: 24,211
Reputation: 4093934
Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I disagree, but still on my phone. I bet berba is complete trash though. The above statement shows me that you dont really understand some of the intricacies with ba and cisse including Ramadan, AFCON, and others.
__________________
When I eat, it is the food that is scared.
Rob S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:51 PM    (permalink
Gay Ork Wang
Matt Forte = Baby Marcus Allen
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oktoberfestland
Posts: 19,455
Reputation: 680057
Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Gay Ork Wang is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud View Post
Only when his positioning is better. Boateng is stronger and gets up higher when he's in the right place.
i mean not only defensively. whem did boateng sxore the last time
__________________

Gay Ork Wang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 05:59 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob S View Post
I disagree, but still on my phone. I bet berba is complete trash though. The above statement shows me that you dont really understand some of the intricacies with ba and cisse including Ramadan, AFCON, and others.
If Berba's a has-been, then sure, he's no answer, but I don't think that's as much as fault as SAF's youth movement. If he's still got his abilities he'd be much more able to step in as your central striker than Carroll.

I'm just not getting how Ba and Cisse not being with the team is more of a problem with Berbatov as the third man than it is with Carroll there, especially since Berba would leave you with more money to spend on the rest of the time while also being the better player.

Quote:
Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang View Post
i mean not only defensively. whem did boateng sxore the last time
I'm not too worried about our CBs scoring goals for us. If he and Hummels click he'll make us better defensively, and with our talent in front of them the marginal offensive downgrade from Badstuber to Boateng is far less important for me.

Then again I also think Jerome's going to have a huge year this year so him and Dante end up being Bayern's big game pairing by season's end. But admittedly that's just a feeling as I think Dante's experience and passing will really let Boateng thrive, like Badstuber he can hit awesome long balls, but he's much more reliable and intelligent with his movement. Something that'll not only help cover for Boateng's lapses in concentration, but will provide him with a good mentor to learn from.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

Last edited by Rosebud : 07-15-2012 at 06:05 PM.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 06:01 PM    (permalink
Rob S
Suck it Metsox
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark haired women and breakfast food
Posts: 24,211
Reputation: 4093934
Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rob S is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I think Carroll is much, much better. I really do. He played great under parses once and I'm sure he would again.
__________________
When I eat, it is the food that is scared.
Rob S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 06:12 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Well that explains it, I don't think very highly of Carroll. He tries hard, he's big and runs, but man, he just doesn't look like a guy who'll ever be a stud, a poor man's Gomez or Huntelaar even maybe, but never a Dzeko or Berbatov before Welbeck and Chicharito moved ahead of him. That big striker that has the intelligence and skill to be as big of a threat from outside of the box and setting up his team-mates. Even at the Euro's he was disappointing, he scored a goal but most of those long balls he had worked so hard to get to, he headed right to the other team.

Whereas if Berba's still got it, I think he would be great at setting up Cisse or Ba, whether it next to Cisse in a 2 striker formation, or just filling in for him in the 4-3-3, and finding Ba screeching in off the wing or Cabaye surging forward.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2012, 09:41 PM    (permalink
Verloren
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 753
Reputation: 58050
Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Verloren is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by prock View Post
So I just bought Football Manager and there isn't a CD key in my validation email.
I had to wait 24-48h. SI apparently needs to validate it on their end first.
Verloren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2012, 12:37 PM    (permalink
Rosebud
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Enjoying a succulent peach
Posts: 10,596
Reputation: 2578670
Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Rosebud is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Gladbach wrapping up LdJ according to SkySport.
__________________

BK

Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen View Post
JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
Quote:
Originally Posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCX View Post
Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
Rosebud is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.