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Old 06-04-2013, 07:52 PM    (permalink
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Won't Sturridge ***** playing on the wing? Although I guess playing wing for your country is different than for club.
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CM - Tom Cleverley
CM - Jack Wilshere
CAM - Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
RW - Wilfried Zaha
LW - Daniel Sturridge
ST - Wayne Rooney

I quite like the look of this. The front 3 is fluid, all guys can play in different positions in attack and are all scoring threats. The 3 midfielders all have good technical ability and Chamberlain in the middle gives us a 4th guy that can attack with pace a score a goal. If we're going more defensive...Jack Rodwell? Another guy that is gonna get no playing time, but he's a decent player. Actually, Phill Jones probably makes the most sense for that role.
I don't know about that, Wilshere and Cleverley is kind little in the middle considering Ox is a winger currently. Ideally you add two real mids next to wilshere, so I'm thinking Henderson and Cleverley, Jones or Milner until Powell takes over. Then you've got Ox, Zaha, Sterling, Walcott and Welbeck to pick two wingers from to flank Rooney/Sturridge/Welbeck as the lone striker. Depending on who actually develops that team could make a semifinal.
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I would be very satisfied if Mexico doesn't qualify for the World Cup. Currently tied with Jamaica.
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Fernandinho...City...35 million??

He's 28 years old.
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He's good though. Will really help give that midfield some passing quality without comprising their big and strong defending. Fernandinho and Navas are really nice additions to their squad in areas they lacked. Citeh are actually being smart with their crazy overpriced buys so far.
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Wright Thompson is great.

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Deserved goal for Italy there. Well deserved for Insigne as well, he's been class. Looks like a really good player.

England have been average. Birmingham winger Nathan Redmond has been the one bright spark. Only 19 and was brought into the squad late, but he's been the best player on the pitch for us. One for the future maybe. Sucks that he'll probably be out of the starting 11 once Ince, Zaha and Lansbury all come back.
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From the 16 man draft I'm doing here's what I've got so far:

FW - Stephan El Sharaawy
FW - Erik Lamela
MF - Marek Hamsik
MF - Moussa Dembele
MF - Ilkay Gundogan
LB - David Alaba
CB - Mats Hummels
RB - Rafael
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I'm not so sure the english won't accidentally squeeze out a stronger team out of this next generation. With Liverpool's fall Sturridge, Henderson, Sterling and Shelvey have been getting a lot of PT. With Arsenal's transfer policies Wilshere has become a big time player as Walcott and OX have also seen big minutes. The big question will be how much the ManU segment of your team develops cause with Welbeck, Zaha, Powell and Cleverley they could also bring a lot to the table.

Once Roy gets fired after the WC you could have an interesting team brewing. With a Henderson, Wilshere, Cleverly/Powell mid field playing behind 3 of Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge, Walcott, Ox, Zaha and Sterling the talent is there to actually be dangerous.

Someone will need to grow into the holding spot so Wilshere and the third midfielder can get forward, and while there's a lot of young talent in the attacking line I'm not sure that's not just a collection of good players rather than dynamic stars. But this just might turn into a successful generation that can actually get past the quarterfinals.
I don't think Shelvey is a future England senior player. I just don't think he's got it in him mentally. No composure, no real creativity/vision. He's a worker, and I'll give him credit for that, but I just don't see it with him.

Henderson, on the other hand, I think he's starting to come into his own.
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On a completely unrelated note, this newgen lefty striker is an absolute superstar for me in FM 13. 22 goals in 34 caps as a 21 year old for Germany!



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I'm pretty excited about the Stekelenburg signing.

As of now, Fulham's starting roster:

GK: Steek
RB: Riether
CB: Amorebieta
CB: Hangeland
LB: Riise/Richardson/Briggs/???
CM: Sidwell
CM: Boateng
RM: Dejagah/Duff
LM: Kacaniklic/Frei
CAM: Ruiz
ST: Berbatov

If they can upgrade at LB, find a creative center midfield, and get another striker then I think they could challenge for a Euro spot.
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Hopefully this Germany U21 game is good.

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Agreed, far too many players who are just happy to pick up a wage and rot away due to the over inflated wages our teams pay.

I've been sitting here stewing over what might be a good team going forward, obviously this still won't be a world beating team, but something along the lines of:

GK - Hart

DR - Johnson? Smalling? Martin Kelly? Wisdom? (We really have nothing here past Johnson, hence his continued appearances)
DC - Phil Jones
DC - Smalling? Cahill?
DL - Baines

DMC - Cleverley
MC - Wilshiire
MC - Nick Powell / Will Hughes (Neither are ready yet, but both should be class IMO)

AMR - Zaha
AML - Sterling
ST - Sturridge

Looks a damn sight better than what we are being served up tonight. I am sure I am missing a ton of names, especially at the back...
You got me thinking far into the future. A lot of this is going to change, but what about something like this for the 2018 World Cup?

GK: Joe Hart (31)

RB: Andre Wisdom (25)
CB: Phil Jones (26)
CB: Chris Smalling (28)
LB: Ryan Bertrand (28)

CM: Jack Wilshere (26)
CM: Nathaniel Chalobah (23)
CM: Will Hughes (23)

RW: Wilfried Zaha (25)
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LW: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (24)

What would other teams potentially look like?
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Germany - 2018
GK Neuer (32) / ter Stegen (26)
RB Jung (27) / Jantschke (28)
CB Hummels (29) / Kolasinac (24)
CB Wollscheid (29) / Ginter (24) / Boateng (29)
LB Dudziak (22) / Oczipka (29)

DLP Gundogan (27) / Kroos (28) / Holtby (27)
B2B Lars Bender (29) / Goretzka (23) / Can (24)
RW Muller (28) / Meyer (22)
AM Ozil (29) / Gotze (25)
LW Draxler (24) / Schurrle (27) / Herrmann (27)
ST Reus (29) / Kruse (30) / Volland (25) / Yesil (23)
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Italy 2018
GK Sirigu (31) / Perrin (25)
RB De Sciglio (25) / Abate (31)
CB Ogbonna (30) / Caldirola (27) / Capuano (26)
CB Bonucci (31) / Astori (31)
LB Santon (27) / Criscito (31)

MF Veratti (25)
MF Poli (28) / Florenzi (27)
MF Marronne (28) / Marchisio (32)

FW Insigne (27) / Destro (27)
ST Balotelli (27) / Immobile (28)
FW El Sharaawy (25) / Borini (27)
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GK Diego Alves
RB Rafael / Danilo
CB David Luiz / Thiago Silva
CB Dede / Doria
LB Alex Sandro / Marcelo

MF Lucas Leiva / Romulo
MF Sandro / Fernando
MF Ramires / Oscar

FW Neymar / Willian
CF Leandro Damiao / Ademilson
FW Lucas Moura / Oscar

That's my guess. Perhaps Thiago Silva is still a world class CB at that age, but I really, really like Dede as a player. Oscar listed as a backup in two spots for lineup versatility reasons. otherwise he backs up Lucas Moura up front

I realize that my lineup not be the popular choice, but it's what I'd do. Also, I'm not a Brazil fan, just did it for shits
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GK: Joe Hart (31) | Jack Butland (25) | Fraser Forster (30)

RB: Andre Wisdom (25) | Kyle Walker (28)
CB: Phil Jones (26) | Steven Caulker (26)
CB: Chris Smalling (28)
LB: Ryan Bertrand (28) | Danny Rose (27)

CM: Jack Wilshere (26)
CM: Nathaniel Chalobah (23) | Jack Rodwell (27)
CM: Will Hughes (23) | Nick Powell (24)

RW: Wilfried Zaha (25) | Theo Walcott (29)
ST: Daniel Sturridge (28) | Danny Welbeck (27) | Wayne Rooney (32) | Andy Carroll (29)
LW: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (24) | Raheem Sterling (23)
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GK Sirigu (31) / Perrin (25)
RB De Sciglio (25) / Abate (31)
CB Ogbonna (30) / Caldirola (27) / Capuano (26)
CB Bonucci (31) / Astori (31)
LB Santon (27) / Criscito (31)

MF Veratti (25)
MF Poli (28) / Florenzi (27)
MF Marronne (28) / Marchisio (32)

FW Insigne (27) / Destro (27)
ST Balotelli (27) / Immobile (28)
FW El Sharaawy (25) / Borini (27)
I like it. I think there's a spot in there for Lorenzo Crisetig somewhere, though. Bright young talent.
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GK Neuer (32) / ter Stegen (26)
RB Jung (27) / Jantschke (28)
CB Hummels (29) / Kolasinac (24)
CB Wollscheid (29) / Ginter (24) / Boateng (29)
LB Dudziak (22) / Oczipka (29)

DLP Gundogan (27) / Kroos (28) / Holtby (27)
B2B Lars Bender (29) / Goretzka (23) / Can (24)
RW Muller (28) / Meyer (22)
AM Ozil (29) / Gotze (25)
LW Draxler (24) / Schurrle (27) / Herrmann (27)
ST Reus (29) / Kruse (30) / Volland (25) / Yesil (23)
How good are those fullbacks? I don't know much about them. I think that's the only spot where they might be lacking. Also, no Badstuber in there? Worried about his injury history?

Also, that midfield + forward group = wow.
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