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Old 08-22-2013, 10:00 PM    (permalink
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Chelsea hijacking the Willian deal lololololol. How many attacking midfielders do they need?



Even without anymore signings i'd still say they're favourites. Either Spurs or Liverpool.
If Chelsea hijacked it I wouldn't even be mad. It is impossible to be angry at the offseason we have had. I think Spurs will be able to outlast Liverpool as long as Soldado stays fit.
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If Chelsea hijacked it I wouldn't even be mad. It is impossible to be angry at the offseason we have had. I think Spurs will be able to outlast Liverpool as long as Soldado stays fit.
arsenal too. tottenham's gotta be favorites for 4th over arsenal right now.
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arsenal too. tottenham's gotta be favorites for 4th over arsenal right now.
I hope more than anything that Arsenal start to panic buy players for way more than they are worth, especially if those players are mediocre.
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I hope more than anything that Arsenal start to panic buy players for way more than they are worth, especially if those players are mediocre.
Cabaye for 25M come on down.
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Cabaye for 25M come on down.
STAHP. You've already ripped off a big club once in the last few years. Let someone else have a turn!
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STAHP. You've already ripped off a big club once in the last few years. Let someone else have a turn!
Bale for 97M?
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That is completely fair for both sides.
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So if Chelsea gets Willian, then basically trades Mata for Rooney...

Can't help but think that the team might be better in the end, as much as I love Mata. The difference in ability between Mata and De Bruyne/Oscar/Willian/Schurrle is probably less than the difference in ability between Rooney and Torres/Ba/Lukaku nowadays.

Obviously, I think Mata is better than Rooney, but the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think Chelsea lose as much as they gain if Willian or De Bruyne slide into Mata's role while Rooney finally gives us a striker.

My biggest issue would be Lukaku being shoved down the pecking order and not getting a chance to get that top spot that allows him to develop into the beast he CAN be.

All of that being said, I really hope Mata stays put. He's so darn good.
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Why not both? Surely they can afford Ronney without having to give away their best player?
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Old 08-23-2013, 02:18 AM    (permalink
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Not if Man Utd will only give up Rooney in a Mata swap

The bigger question though, is who would take his place in my sig?!
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So if Chelsea gets Willian, then basically trades Mata for Rooney...

Can't help but think that the team might be better in the end, as much as I love Mata. The difference in ability between Mata and De Bruyne/Oscar/Willian/Schurrle is probably less than the difference in ability between Rooney and Torres/Ba/Lukaku nowadays.

Obviously, I think Mata is better than Rooney, but the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think Chelsea lose as much as they gain if Willian or De Bruyne slide into Mata's role while Rooney finally gives us a striker.

My biggest issue would be Lukaku being shoved down the pecking order and not getting a chance to get that top spot that allows him to develop into the beast he CAN be.

All of that being said, I really hope Mata stays put. He's so darn good.
I'd be surprised in the end if the Willian thing is even legit. There is a lot of support for the deal having already been basically agreed to and to be fair, the deal kind of looks lose-lose to me if he ends up going to Chelsea. Most fan reactions I've read online seem to be along the line of 'why?' and I kind of agree. It's a lot of money to spend on a player who in all honesty might not be good enough to crack the starting eleven and even if he does, it is at the expense of young but talented guys who need playing time to continue to develop.
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Willian for 37 by the sounds of things. Spurs only offering 30. I can safely say I'd rather spend 30-35 on Lamela and possibly look at cheaper alternatives instead of Willian (Eriksen from Ajax?).
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So if Chelsea gets Willian, then basically trades Mata for Rooney...

Can't help but think that the team might be better in the end, as much as I love Mata. The difference in ability between Mata and De Bruyne/Oscar/Willian/Schurrle is probably less than the difference in ability between Rooney and Torres/Ba/Lukaku nowadays.

Obviously, I think Mata is better than Rooney, but the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think Chelsea lose as much as they gain if Willian or De Bruyne slide into Mata's role while Rooney finally gives us a striker.

My biggest issue would be Lukaku being shoved down the pecking order and not getting a chance to get that top spot that allows him to develop into the beast he CAN be.

All of that being said, I really hope Mata stays put. He's so darn good.
I've read some things that have said Ba could be going to Roma in the merry go round exchanging of players. And Moses going out on loan which I'm not a fan of. I'd rather send DeBruyne out on loan again.
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I'm the complete opposite of you. I'm not big on Moses at all while I absolutely love De Bruyne.

So assuming Willian comes in and Moses goes out on loan, there will be 6 guys for those three attacking mid spots, all of substantial quality, and all of which will probably be needed with the amount of games that Chelsea will be playing. That's me hoping that the Mata speculation is rubbish and he sticks around.
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I wish we would just start Lukaku most of the time and keep Mata. No need for this current merry go round as you put it.
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I'm with you, that would be my preference as well. But if the idea is to just add Willian and drop Moses, then I'm all for it. It's not my money being spent, after all.
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I can't see the Mata thing being legit at all. Nobody wants to go to Man Utd at the moment and I can't imagine a player of the quality of Mata suddenly being the one to change things.
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I'm the complete opposite of you. I'm not big on Moses at all while I absolutely love De Bruyne.

So assuming Willian comes in and Moses goes out on loan, there will be 6 guys for those three attacking mid spots, all of substantial quality, and all of which will probably be needed with the amount of games that Chelsea will be playing. That's me hoping that the Mata speculation is rubbish and he sticks around.
I like Moses' direct nature of attacking the box. When Mata, Hazard, and Oscar are all on the field, I feel like they just play with the ball too much outside the top of the box looking for the perfect play.
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I like Moses a lot but he always kind of felt like he wouldn't be a prime piece for Chelsea. I thought how well he performed in Europa last year was appropriate and about now I'd like to see him finding time on a bigger but less populated club.
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BBC saying Willian to Chelsea for 30m is official pending work permit hearing.
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About 5 million more than Spurs were offering I believe. Not surprised Anzhi took their time selling him. Good business for them.
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Well they spent 30m to buy him from Shakhtar, so at least they got their money back.
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I also always thought Chelsea needs Moses for their "English" player quota for the Champions league.
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Newcastle should get Moses. We almost bought him when he was at Crystal Palace, but then he chose Wigan over us...
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Newcastle should get Moses. We almost bought him when he was at Crystal Palace, but then he chose Wigan over us...
I saw West Brom. But now that they brought in Sinclair on loan, who knows if their interested has changed.
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