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Old 05-22-2014, 06:24 PM    (permalink
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I would have found a place for Donovan, but it kind of sounds like he doesn't get along with Klinsman anyway. I don't particularly care for Donovan, but it is a bummer to see his USMNT run end.
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LanDONE DONEovan.
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Just return Michael Bradley in one piece, k thanks
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Bummed to see the end for Donovan, but if he's struggling with conditioning, finding his role, and is a potential attitude issue then I understand.

Hopefully this is the time for Bradley and Clint to shine and Jozy gets it together.
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Donovan is my all-time favorite USMNT player. Always made me so happy when he would drive daggers into Mexico.
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I don't even know if he should start but to give Julian Green, who was ineffective in his only international game and has never played at a high club level a spot over him is pretty ridiculous.
Well, green has played in teh CL whereas Donovan's highest club level was the failure with Leverkusen...
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Where are you cgf? Why didn't Kruse make the preliminary German squad?
Partially because Jogi sucks at his job and partially because Kruse ran out of steam in the second half of the season and was much quieter than his fantastic first half and last season. His finishing abandoned him as he left a number goals on the pitch that would've kept BMG in the CL places.

Also Jogi's bringing Volland and Klose while our best formation sees us playing with no striker, I still would've brought Kruse a long over someone like Hahn, Draxler or Schurrle, but at least Jogi didn't nominate Gomez and Jansen.

Tony Jantschke is the Gladbach player I really can't fathom why he wasn't brought, he's been excellent defensively since breaking through and in the first half of the season was a lot more aggressive moving forward to show of his excellent technique and passing before injuries forced him to deputize as a CB, which he also excelled at. I think Tony was ready to ride along to the euros and now he's had a real badass breakout year and Jogi still left him, all because his club isn't from the part of germany Jogi is capable of scouting like all of the swabs that Jogi has so much irrational love for.

My biggest concern is all of the creativity getting our best 11 onto the pitch will take, especially with Ilkay out and Sami still coming back from his injury, cause our best 11 is this:

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and while Jogi may have the courage to copy Bayern and play Lahm at the 6, I doubt he also stumbles into playing Mesut as our furthest most player, using GK or Durm over Schmelzer on the left, and playing our best to CBs together instead of always trying to handicap one of them by playing with Mertesacker.

So I'm expecting only one of Kroos and Ozil on the pitch, Merte to start every game, Schmelzer to start every game, he already didn't bring Jantschke for some inexplicable reason, and Klose to be brought out of retirement not just to sit on the bench but to play regularly.
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I love Miroslav Klose. It seriously feels like he has played in every World Cup since I've been alive.
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I love Miroslav Klose. It seriously feels like he has played in every World Cup since I've been alive.
Right? The only WC I have many memories of that he wasn't a part of was 98...and Miro was a late bloomer.

Amazing career that polak has put together and I'll always have love for him, but at this point he needs to be glued to the bench. Even if we play with a striker both Kruse and Volland are better options.
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Reading people's reactions to LD getting left out is funny.

It makes me sad because he was my favorite and I still feel he should have gone but 1. I don't think he would have been a big factor 2. Our chances of moving on hvae barely moved if at all.
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I dont think we wouldve done any damage, but at least give one of the best players in US history another shot of getting a goal in the World Cup!
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Right? The only WC I have many memories of that he wasn't a part of was 98...and Miro was a late bloomer.

Amazing career that polak has put together and I'll always have love for him, but at this point he needs to be glued to the bench. Even if we play with a striker both Kruse and Volland are better options.
I'd guess he has just gone for his experience and leadership, but I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he ends up scoring 3 or 4 goals this WC.
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I dont think we wouldve done any damage, but at least give one of the best players in US history another shot of getting a goal in the World Cup!
Pretty much how I see it. Donovan > Davis.
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I'd guess he has just gone for his experience and leadership, but I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he ends up scoring 3 or 4 goals this WC.
Oh I'd have taken Miro on my team to, but he'd be behind Ozil, Reus, Gotze, Volland and Kruse for PT.
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Reading people's reactions to LD getting left out is funny.

It makes me sad because he was my favorite and I still feel he should have gone but 1. I don't think he would have been a big factor 2. Our chances of moving on hvae barely moved if at all.
If the USMNT moves on, it will be well ******* earned. That group is brutal. It's brutal for every team in it. I love how every team in the group is a meaningful match-up for the USA.

Germany - Jurgen Klinsmann's home country. Highly meaningful for the coach and his players (for his sake).

Portugal - Basically, with all of their flopping and whining, the antithesis of American sports. One of the great things about watching USMNT is how clean they play the game. Especially compared to most other countries.

Ghana - **** Ghana.
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Klose would probably have won a WC by now if he had played for Poland. Just the facts.

I'm personally a bit bummed about no Landon, but these things happen.
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Yeah **** portugal, flopping ass bitches, you never see that crap in the NFL, NBA and NHL...wait...

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I'm personally a bit bummed about no Landon, but these things happen.
Poldi, Miro, Lewy and Kuba would be a nasty front 4.
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If the USMNT moves on, it will be well ******* earned. That group is brutal. It's brutal for every team in it. I love how every team in the group is a meaningful match-up for the USA.

Germany - Jurgen Klinsmann's home country. Highly meaningful for the coach and his players (for his sake).

Portugal - Basically, with all of their flopping and whining, the antithesis of American sports. One of the great things about watching USMNT is how clean they play the game. Especially compared to most other countries.

Ghana - **** Ghana.
At least you guys won't get beat 5-0 by Holland and Spain and then 3-0 by Chile.

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Klose would probably have won a WC by now if he had played for Poland. Just the facts.

I'm personally a bit bummed about no Landon, but these things happen.
Feel the same about Donovan 100%

Not sure if it's the best move or not, but there's no way to avoid situations like these.
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It'll be hilarious when the us goes 3 and out and Julian green doesn't get cap'd
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It'll be hilarious when the us goes 3 and out and Julian green doesn't get cap'd
Still bewilders me how US got such a tough group and Mexico who barely made it by the strand of hair on their mustache...gets a punk ***** ass group.
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It'll be hilarious when Mexico goes three and out against a relatively easy group and is banned from having sex for two weeks for nothing.
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The Mexican soccer federation really is the worst.
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Not taking Landon is really dumb. Unless Julian Green becomes a world beater and teams legit don't want to play the US in 2018, I don't see how this was the right call. Hoping they prove me wrong, but punting a WC to develop youth is almost always the wrong call.
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