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Old 07-08-2014, 09:01 PM    (permalink
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They better hope they bounce right back up considering the losses they will be facing next year.
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huge pressure on management and players to get up now with that wage bill. i think magath will do it though. look at qpr for an example of how that path could go wrong though. they only barely got promoted, the championship is another animal.
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Well, if they don't get promoted, they will almost assuredly wind up pulling a Leeds/Portsmouth.
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Debuchy deal is done. £10m fee plus potential bonuses of ~£2.5m. Pretty good return for him....let's get Cabella and a striker through the door though.
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Debuchy deal is done. £10m fee plus potential bonuses of ~£2.5m. Pretty good return for him....let's get Cabella and a striker through the door though.
If we can get Cabella and a striker without losing anyone I'd be relatively satisfied and optimistic for next season.

As always, we could finish anywhere between 5th and 20th.
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If we can get Cabella and a striker without losing anyone I'd be relatively satisfied and optimistic for next season.
Agreed. The striker has to be good though. Bringing back DeJong or something would be awful. We need a Lacazette / Demba Ba / etc......such a shame that Papiss is worthless now, but it is what it is. I youtube the goals mashup from that 1/2 first season all the time and it makes me sad. He was straight up awesome and, I'm sorry, but those goals weren't luck. There is a good player in there.

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Agreed. The striker has to be good though. Bringing back DeJong or something would be awful. We need a Lacazette / Demba Ba / etc......such a shame that Papiss is worthless now, but it is what it is. I youtube the goals mashup from that 1/2 first season all the time and it makes me sad. He was straight up awesome and, I'm sorry, but those goals weren't luck. There is a good player in there.

It's frustrating because that natural instinct for goals isn't usually something that goes away. He always had issues with composure when he had time to think and it isn't surprising that he hasn't scored goals like the one vs Chelsea, but he can't even score the simple ones anymore.

It has to be a confidence thing, which leaves a little bit of hope that it'll come back eventually. But we've been waiting 4 years for Torres to regain his form.

The money from Debuchy should be more than enough to tie up the Cabella deal and get a good striker in. We should still have most of the Cabaye money as well.
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that vid makes me sad, and i'm not even a newcastle fan. part of why i love footy is the range of form players go through. you don't see such a big drop in production from quality players in other sports. players can go from world class to **** in a few months. with that said, it's really sad to see talented players just go through such an unfortunate rut. definitely a confidence problem from what i saw of him last season. were fans happy to keep cisse over ba? i think i remember one of you two being against the ba transfer?

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I think everyone wanted to keep Ba. He was awesome for us, it was clear he wouldn't be playing much at Chelsea, and we got shafted on the fee because of a buy out clause.
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I wonder how excited Vitesse gets when Chelsea signs kids like Mario Pasalic, knowing that he's going to probably star for them this season :P
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I think everyone wanted to keep Ba. He was awesome for us, it was clear he wouldn't be playing much at Chelsea, and we got shafted on the fee because of a buy out clause.
I'll never say a bad word about Demba after his PSG goal. I went ballistic when that happened.
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@joserra_espn Empieza a moverse el mercado post-mundial. Pueden confirmarse en estos días el pase de Kroos al Madrid, Khedira al Chelsea y Di Maria al PSG

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I think everyone wanted to keep Ba. He was awesome for us, it was clear he wouldn't be playing much at Chelsea, and we got shafted on the fee because of a buy out clause.
i remember he wasn't seeing the pitch much because of cisse's form, and didn't pardew try him out unsuccessfully as a wide forward to accommodate him somehow in the starting eleven with cisse?
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@joserra_espn Empieza a moverse el mercado post-mundial. Pueden confirmarse en estos días el pase de Kroos al Madrid, Khedira al Chelsea y Di Maria al PSG

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wouldn't surprise me.. but i'm not too sure how kroos would fit with modric. RM needs a dsstroyer in MF.

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If both Khedira and Di Maria leave, there has to be another guy arriving for the Real Madrid midfield.

Having Alonso, Modric, Di Maria, Khedira, and Illara almost proved not enough, due to injuries and suspensions.

Di Maria leaves only if the club feels confident they can bring in Vidal or Pogba or some other elite talent/promise to replace him.

Khedira I can see leaving though.
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i remember he wasn't seeing the pitch much because of cisse's form, and didn't pardew try him out unsuccessfully as a wide forward to accommodate him somehow in the starting eleven with cisse?
He was always starting, but the 1 striker formation was working out really well for us, so Demba was playing on the wing. He was playing pretty well too, just not getting the goals to show for it and strikers love getting their goals.
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If both Khedira and Di Maria leave, there has to be another guy arriving for the Real Madrid midfield.

Having Alonso, Modric, Di Maria, Khedira, and Illara almost proved not enough, due to injuries and suspensions.

Di Maria leaves only if the club feels confident they can bring in Vidal or Pogba or some other elite talent/promise to replace him.

Khedira I can see leaving though.
Well they have Casemiro to play deeper (for now), and can always put Isco at the Di Maria spot and play him a bit higher up.
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Well they have Casemiro to play deeper (for now), and can always put Isco at the Di Maria spot and play him a bit higher up.
Eh, I don't quite trust Casemiro. If Kroos does arrive, that'll be him. As for Isco, I don't think he'll have the workrate Di Maria had. Or rather, I don't think he'll work as well as Di Maria did. His role and effect was pretty unique.
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This is a system that just doesn't work for Isco, and vice versa. Leaves him in really awkward spots.
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For what it's worth, I'm still really, really sad that we didnt get to se Ronaldo-Ozil-Bale line up together behind Benzema in a 4-2-3-1. That would have been so fun to watch.
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For what it's worth, I'm still really, really sad that we didnt get to se Ronaldo-Ozil-Bale line up together behind Benzema in a 4-2-3-1. That would have been so fun to watch.
That would have been insanely talented. Just filthy.

Weak midfield relying solely on Alonso and Modric though, but you'd probably score 3 goals every game.
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For what it's worth, I'm still really, really sad that we didnt get to se Ronaldo-Ozil-Bale line up together behind Benzema in a 4-2-3-1. That would have been so fun to watch.
Imagine if they actually had a world class striker too? Benzema is insanely frustrating. He's a really good player and all, but Real should do better.
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Not a fan of Benzema either.

We might unload Illara
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kroos plays a bit more advanced than alonso and isn't a good defender. khedira likes moving up too. modric is good in the center of the pitch like kroos. i don't like the fit, despite the value but it is RM. flo just spending money to spend money. they need a DM to replace xabi. could be a regista type but someone who is at least disciplined to stay back and provide cover. kroos likes his long shots so he's usually around the box.
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