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Old 01-13-2009, 09:40 PM    (permalink
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I'll be rooting for the Eagles for one reason. Mcnabb takes way too much crap all the time and he deserves a championship.

Anyways, I read about the interview a couple minutes ago. And you are correct, I would be expecting him to be hired pretty much as soon as Baltimore loses.
I used to think the same thing towards McNabb. Ever since he made that comment about black QB's take more heat that whites do, though, I lost a lot of respect for him. He just got an excuse for everything.
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I used to think the same thing towards McNabb. Ever since he made that comment about black QB's take more heat that whites do, though, I lost a lot of respect for him. He just got an excuse for everything.
Ah well, I don't really care about that whole black/white thing. I mean, if that's an issue to him then that's really too bad. Still think he deserves to win the big one before he's done.
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so we added Bryan Cox as our DLine coach... we appear to be headed for a psychotic defensive coaching staff with Ryan and Cox so far.
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so we added Bryan Cox as our DLine coach... we appear to be headed for a psychotic defensive coaching staff with Ryan and Cox so far.
I feel like I should know who that is but I'm drawing a blank. Would you care to refresh my seemingly nonexistant memory?
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Bryan Cox is most famous for flicking everyone off in Ralph Wilson stadium with both hands.

He received a good number of fines throughout his NFL career.

He was a Bill Belichick player. He wasn't flashy... he just liked to hit people.
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This is hands down the best coaching staff Cleveland has had since coming back into the leauge. We've always had garbage coordinators and even more pathetic position coaches...now its changing hahaha
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This is hands down the best coaching staff Cleveland has had since coming back into the leauge. We've always had garbage coordinators and even more pathetic position coaches...now its changing hahaha
Agreed. No hiring has really struck me as bad. Now lets hope they don't screw it up with a bad GM.
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I think the key is all the experience. Mangini is coming off a head coaching job and is bringing a lot of his people with him in new york and from his new england days. I like the Rob Ryan hire a lot, he and Eric are gonna turn around the defense IMO.
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Just read something from the canton repository, via rotoworld, about Mangini. It basically said that he's Napolean, he's ostracized Rogers, and everyone in Cleveland in miserable. That's the basic run-down. I don't know if it's true obviously, but I'll just say I hope it's not. The last thing we need is for our best player to get pissed.
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First, the guy who wrote it is a Ravens reporter I'm told

Second, how can anyone make any lasting judgements already as at least 90% of the players are on vacation or whatever
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First, the guy who wrote it is a Ravens reporter I'm told

Second, how can anyone make any lasting judgements already as at least 90% of the players are on vacation or whatever
So pretty much it's just bad press trying to spread dissent among fans? Very well could be. I was just putting it up here because I don't know what anyone else has heard on here.
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I suppose if he's right, as long as Mangini doesn't try to invade Russia, especially in winter, the Browns should do just fine
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I suppose if he's right, as long as Mangini doesn't try to invade Russia, especially in winter, the Browns should do just fine
We have enough trouble invading opposing teams backfields. I don't really think we'd get close to Russia if we tried. I'm sure it'll turn out okay
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Zac Jackson, of ClevelandBrowns.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have waived QB Bruce Gradkowski, P Mike Dragosavich, PK Jason Reda and OT Eric Young.
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Zac Jackson, of ClevelandBrowns.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have terminated the contract of QB Ken Dorsey, LB Antwan Peek and CB Terry Cousin.
I hope we bring Dorsey back.
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I will say-Rogers will not find 2 coaches more in his corner than Rac and Tucker. I kind of feared that a new hard ass coach would send Shaun back to his under achieving days-hope that's not true.

j05son- I hope we bring Dorsey back.

You're joking. Or you mean as coach?



Zac Jackson, of ClevelandBrowns.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have waived QB Bruce Gradkowski, P Mike Dragosavich, PK Jason Reda and OT Eric Young.

Zac Jackson, of ClevelandBrowns.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have terminated the contract of QB Ken Dorsey, LB Antwan Peek and CB Terry Cousin.


So far so good. No complaints.
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I don't really think there's much of a chance that Dorsey comes back. He was here as a mentor for Quinn while Chud was around because he knew that offense inside out. There's no telling how well he'd know Daboll's offense.
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Dorsey is a third string quarterback. There isn't much that's required of him. He's a mentor to Quinn and can bring a lot to the table in his intangibles that he can't bring to the field in terms of ability or skill. He shouldn't be a big price tag either. Why not have a third string QB that your starter admires/befriends and have them going over playbooks and all. The OC might have changed and the playbook, but I will bet the preparation won't.
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Dorsey is a third string quarterback. There isn't much that's required of him. He's a mentor to Quinn and can bring a lot to the table in his intangibles that he can't bring to the field in terms of ability or skill. He shouldn't be a big price tag either. Why not have a third string QB that your starter admires/befriends and have them going over playbooks and all. The OC might have changed and the playbook, but I will bet the preparation won't.
This is true, and your 3rd string QB should never really end up on the field. However, with everything going around about Mangini being some ultimate disciplinarian, I don't know that he's going to care about who's friends with who.

Personally I think it would be beneficial to Quinn because the two of them have shown that they work well together...and Dorsey has always been an asset when it comes to preparation. Nonetheless, I still don't think it's likely he'll be back.
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Dorsey is a third string quarterback. There isn't much that's required of him. He's a mentor to Quinn and can bring a lot to the table in his intangibles that he can't bring to the field in terms of ability or skill.


Even 3rd string have to be able to play(certainly in practice)-Dorsey proved he's not capable of that. As far as mentoring and intangibles-Brady's now in his 3rd season so all of that is over rated-preparation is/always been a strong suit reportedly about Quinn. Personally I think Dorsey's embarrassing play helped contribute to Savage's firing-that he was paying a guy as bad as Dorsey(play wise) to be on the Browns.
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A big part of this offseason I think will be trying to find a competent backup QB, one that will at least allow the Browns to function if Quinn goes down. Assuming DA is traded of course.
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A big part of this offseason I think will be trying to find a competent backup QB, one that will at least allow the Browns to function if Quinn goes down. Assuming DA is traded of course.
I cannot fathom a scenario where Anderon stays.

If for no other reason, the offense Daboll wants to run hass no place for a QB like Anderson. It's based on timing and accuracy; 2 area in which Derek has displayed almost no ability
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Supply and demand are in our favor regarding DA too. Only Stafford and Sanchez are viewed as franchise QB prospects, and only starting QBs available via trade are Cassel and Anderson. Cassel's price is probably a 1st and a 3rd, but DA can be had for a 2nd or two 3rd rounders it looks like.....and lots of teams need a QB: Carolina, Kansas City, St.Louis, Detroit, Minnesota, NYJets, San Francisco, Seattle, etc.
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I think Anderson could still fetch a 1st rounder. Just too many teams who are contenders but lack a QB. A bidding war can only bring in more value for him.
The Jets in particular look like they'd be very interested. Of course, it could be embarrassing if Anderson leads them to the playoffs while we still have problems winning 6 or 7 games.
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i believe the current asking price for DA is a 2nd or two 3rds.
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Picture this: Maby I'm an optimist but DA and an 010' 1st or 2nd or 09' 2nd for Peppers looks doable. Panthers OC Davidson has coached DA and Derek knows Davidson's offense. DA could have more success with a run heavy offense and Carolina is going NOWHERE with Delhome. DA wouldn't necessarily have to put up Pro Bowl numbers in the Panther offense. OLB is Browns #1 need and might pay a steep price to get an elite player. Have no idea about the cost/money analysis but.....
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