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A win is a win and they are a much more explosive offense with Kellen Clemens who can stretch it Vertical. And the Jets are no pushover, they aren't just any 1 win team. This team is 10 plays from being a 5 win team.
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And we're 5 plays away from being undefeated. That is if you take away two of Romo's TD passes and a few of Favre's. I don't see the point of that.
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11-05-2007, 02:12 PM
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Wreak havoc? Does he plan on bringing his military aresnal with him to NJ?
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Oh yes. His biceps are registered weapons. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.
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11-05-2007, 02:13 PM
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Oh yes. His biceps are registered weapons. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.
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We'll see. I haven't read anything about how he is practicing, but playing nose in your scheme is a lot different than what he has been accustomed to playing.
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We'll see. I haven't read anything about how he is practicing, but playing nose in your scheme is a lot different than what he has been accustomed to playing.
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No actually it isn't...he is playing the exact same position as in Chicago...he'll have the same gap responsibilites and everything. Only thing he may be rusty on is terminology..but hopefully within the past 3 weeks he has it close to down...and can translate some of it onto the field.
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11-05-2007, 02:20 PM
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No actually it isn't...he is playing the exact same position as in Chicago...he'll have the same gap responsibilites and everything. Only thing he may be rusty on is terminology..but hopefully within the past 3 weeks he has it close to down...and can translate some of it onto the field.
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Yeah, I heard someone say that before. It's still different. He isn't use to lining up in a 3 man front at all. Regardless of gap and terminology it is very different. He's being counted on to be much more of an anchor than he ever has in Chicago.
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11-05-2007, 02:42 PM
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Don't think Giants will run much versus us. Not with Tank Johnson taking some snaps and keeping Ratliff and Ayodele fresh. Plus our DE are like DT anyway. We are as physical and big as any Front 3 in the NFL. (If we had a Shaun Rogers at NT imagine...)
Giants in three WR set will give us fits. Dunno what we do if Watkins is out.
I think we win if we keep our passing game to TO slants, MBIII pitches outside the tackle and Witten down the middle.
We are good enuff on the OL to rive Romo 3 secs every time ... but not much more if you ask me.
Pray for good weather boys.
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11-05-2007, 02:44 PM
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Wow, errrr dunno what to say.
Eli is possibly the second best QB in the NFC after Romo.
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11-05-2007, 02:47 PM
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Wow, errrr dunno what to say.
Eli is possibly the second best QB in the NFC after Romo.
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I think he is 4th.
1 - Romo (rub it in my face if you want DMW)
2 - Brees
3 - Favre
4 - Manning
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11-05-2007, 02:48 PM
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Yeah, I heard someone say that before. It's still different. He isn't use to lining up in a 3 man front at all. Regardless of gap and terminology it is very different. He's being counted on to be much more of an anchor than he ever has in Chicago.
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That's not true either. Tank was the NT in Chicago while Harris was the UT. Additionally, in our Defense, there is room for our NT to be quite flexible as far as responsibility goes.
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11-05-2007, 02:50 PM
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That's not true either. Tank was the NT in Chicago while Harris was the UT. Additionally, in our Defense, there is room for our NT to be quite flexible as far as responsibility goes.
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What isn't true. I understand Tank was the NT in Chicago. NT in a Tampa 2 is quite different than NT in a 3-4.
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11-05-2007, 02:54 PM
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What isn't true. I understand Tank was the NT in Chicago. NT in a Tampa 2 is quite different than NT in a 3-4.
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In traditional 3-4 schemes yes, but not necessarily in the attacking one gap Phillips 3-4. Tank is neither a square peg or foreign to the responsibilities required of him.
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11-05-2007, 04:01 PM
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AD was contained in Dallas in front of his whole family...probably the game he was most hyped up for. Dallas run D is strong. Getting pressure on the QB is another thing. Very hit or miss. If Chris Long was on our DL, I'd say this game would be cake walk.
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Yea AD was contained, but they are the vikings. you think they will be able to completely focus on stopping the run against our pass offense like they did against the vikings?
this is apples and oranges.
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11-05-2007, 04:18 PM
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God the Eagles suck.
That is all. I predict a 24-7 Washington win.
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11-05-2007, 06:29 PM
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Yea AD was contained, but they are the vikings. you think they will be able to completely focus on stopping the run against our pass offense like they did against the vikings?
this is apples and oranges.
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True. Talking about Jacobs and AD is apples and oranges.
Boys won't have to completely focus on the run. They just need to do what they've been doing. Newman back in the game should help our pass defense better this time around.
Game Score Prediction: 24-13, Cowboys.
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11-05-2007, 06:33 PM
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I like the Cowboys close in this one. I think something like 27-24 looks about right.
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11-05-2007, 07:09 PM
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Giants seem to have only one significant injury which really isn't all that significant.
James Butler may not play. Although I'm pretty sold that Michael Johnson is better than him anyway.
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And i think that TO gets shut down for most of the game, and Witten catches 5-8 passes for 100+ yards because we are playing a rookie at safety
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A win is a win and they are a much more explosive offense with Kellen Clemens who can stretch it Vertical. And the Jets are no pushover, they aren't just any 1 win team. This team is 10 plays from being a 5 win team.
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I was just about to post the same thing, they've been in every game they've played. I thought they were going to beat the giants this year but then chad noodle are pennington threw the game away for them. Clemens is good.
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If you guys are trying to convey the message that the Jets are a good football team, stop.
I have watched them every week and they are a bad team. Bad as their record? No. But there are only 6-7 teams that are worse than them.
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If you guys are trying to convey the message that the Jets are a good football team, stop.
I have watched them every week and they are a bad team. Bad as their record? No. But there are only 6-7 teams that are worse than them.
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they almost beat you guys with chad pennington. i didn't say they were a great team... but they are better than there record indicates. It's not like we're the first team to have a close game with the jets.
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We flat out dominated them in the second half and won by 11 in regulation.
You played them at a similar level the whole way through and won by 3 in overtime.
Again, I said they were a better team than their 1-8 record indicates but they are still a bad team with one of the worst run defenses in the league.
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11-05-2007, 10:56 PM
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We flat out dominated them in the second half and won by 11 in regulation.
You played them at a similar level the whole way through and won by 3 in overtime.
Again, I said they were a better team than their 1-8 record indicates but they are still a bad team with one of the worst run defenses in the league.
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They we're still in it toward the end thanks to the ineptitude of your first half. If chad pennington hadn't tossed the pick at the end there.. they still would have had a good chance of winning. You dominated them in the same sense that Green Bay dominated the chiefs sure the score was a little lopsided at the end.. but it's not like the chiefs were never in that game and it's not like that jet's weren't in the game against you guys.
Yeah they do have bad run d... hence, portis had almost 200 yards. Yes are passing attack has been lacking.. i'll be the first to say it. But, the primary point here is that yes the jets... while not a good team, they're also not as bad as there record shows... which you agree with me. But somehow your victory over the jets is better even though they held close with you guys... if anything it shows that the jets are that much better with clemens at the helm.
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11-05-2007, 11:03 PM
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If Pennington didn't throw the INT? How about you re-phrase it....if Aaron Ross didn't make a play on the ball, then the game would have been closer. After you say that....I say which one? The one in the end zone or the one he returned for a TD?
Point is...you can't just take away plays from a team that helped them win the game. The Skins and Jets are close to each other IMO...and if they played each other 10 times I think the Skins would win the majority but they would all be close games. The gap between the two isn't all that great and remember, I think the Jets are a bad team.
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they almost beat you guys with chad pennington. i didn't say they were a great team... but they are better than there record indicates. It's not like we're the first team to have a close game with the jets.
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They lost to the Eagles, hence they are terrible. End of story.
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jets are bad and the redskins are average
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