NBA Discussion Thread

[M.O.T.H.]

They dont have anything to get Allen. The Celts aren't re-building, they'd probably like to deal Allen because, his contract is expiring and he is older but, they would certainly want something that could help them now, in return. The Cavs couldnt give them that. And the Celtics arent going to want to make the Cavs better.

[M.O.T.H.]

Lots of stuff....

Villanueva won't get offer from Bucks?

It's still highly unlikely the Bucks will make a $4.6 million qualifying offer to Charlie Villanueva, since that would lock them back up in fiscal handcuffs. -- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel


Bucks to give Ramon Session qualifying offer?

Tuesday's trade also makes it much more feasible for the Bucks to present Ramon Sessions with a $1 million qualifying offer and maintain his rights. And so, while the Bucks would love to see Jonny Flynn of Syracuse or Brandon Jennings, who played last season in Italy, available at No. 10, they are not committed to drafting a point guard. -- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel


Bucks Ridnour to Dallas?

The Bucks aren't ruling out the possibility of making another trade - a deal with Dallas involving Luke Ridnour and Jerry Stackhouse is on the grapevine - but they are content to stand pat. -- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel


Bucks turn to Euro Ersan Ilyasova?

Instead, with the potential for a few more dollars in their pocket from the trade, the Bucks are more likely to turn their attention to Ersan Ilyasova, who has been playing in Europe, and try to lure him back to Milwaukee. Ilyasova stands to make considerably more money if he stays in Europe, but the Bucks are hoping Ilyasova would find the potential for considerable playing time appealing enough to return. -- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel


Wizards wanted to trade DeShawn Stevenson

The Wizards trade leaves the roster with an imbalance of guards and perimeter players. Brendan Haywood, Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee are the only players on the roster taller than 6-10. A person familiar with the trade discussions said that the Wizards had hoped to include guard DeShawn Stevenson in the deal, but the Timberwolves requested Songaila instead. Stevenson is still recovering from back surgery in March. -- Washington Post

Warriors after Suns Stoudemire?

[Teams recently have inquired about every returning Suns starter, including Golden State's ongoing interest in Amare Stoudemire (with a package involving Andris Biedrins being revisited). -- Arizona Republic


Suns Stoudemire to Rockets?

According to the same source that disclosed Terry Porter was about to be fired as Suns coach, the Rockets are leaning toward swapping Tracy McGrady's expiring $22M contract, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks for Leandro Barbosa and Stoudemire, who owns an escape clause after next season and is demanding an extension this summer to waive it. -- NY Post





I like the Ilyasova news, we were just talking about him before. I like his game, I was hoping he would get another chance in the league for some time.

There was also some tidbit saying BJ Mullens would like to be a Dirk Nowitzki clone. Yeah, good luck w/ that. Probably should have picked a player that he atleast remotely resembles out there when asked who he most wants to emulate in the league.

[Paul]

Guess Cuban isn't as in love with JJB as I thought he was. I prefer the Hinrich rumor though.

There was also some tidbit saying BJ Mullens would like to a Dirk Nowitzki clone. Yeah, good luck w/ that. Probably should have picked a player that he atleast remotely resembles out there when asked who he most wants to emulate in the league.

I think it was Mullens himself who made that comparison. What a jackass.

[LonghornsLegend]

DeShawn Stevenson could be a nice addition for a team if he's fully healthy, I think he could grow into a go to guy for the right team, but he'd be a great rotational player.


Side note I really like Chris Broussard and his reports of the NBA, I don't think I like anyone like that for football except maybe Michael Smith but he's not the main guy they always talk to when there is a football trade.

[M.O.T.H.]

Stevenson will never be a go to guy...he's almost 29 and his offensive game/shooting hasn't gotten much better. I had high hopes for him but, he is a 9 year vet believe it or not now and his offensive game still possesses plenty of flaws. I wanted him in that draft, well him or D Miles and then the Magic traded for him and that got me excited but, he just never panned out like expected. Atleast he's a very good defender and gives you nice energy but, you cant expect much more from him.

[Paul]

Too little too late for Stevenson. He's just turned 28 which isn't old, but he's had ten years to get his game together and he hasn't done much. A goto guy, he'll never be. But as a guy in the rotation, yeah he'll be fine, but I don't see him being the guy that helps the Mavs get over this hump.

[keylime_5]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

Unless the Cavs find a good wing player, this isnt going to make them better than the Magic. They need another scorer who is preferably on the taller side as well. It's not like Shaq can stay w/ Howard either. Last time he had to resort to flopping several times when they played. It doesn't help them much especially in transition where their defense failed against Orlando. And lets not forget Howard and a young Orlando team should be a year better where as Shaq will be 38. They're going to be very good, that's for sure but, I'd be more worried about a healthy Celtics team.

edit...as for matchup problems. They still cant guard both Lewis and Turkoglu, they had a hard enough time trying to stop one of them. Good for the Cavs but, it doesnt worry me at all.

It's an interesting predicament in the East. Cavs match up well with Boston and would beat them in a 7 game series, Orlando matches up well with Cleveland and would probably still beat them in a 7 game series. But Boston with Garnett would probably beat Orlando in 7 games. Cavs were the best team in the NBA last regular season so it might not matter how they match up if Orlando doesn't get by Boston. I think adding Shaq and possibly a Rasheed Wallace or the like at PF might put us over the top in the East anyway, even against that scary Orlando matchup.

[cvv84]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

Lots of stuff....
I like the Ilyasova news, we were just talking about him before. I like his game, I was hoping he would get another chance in the league for some time.

He's like a less athletically Charlie Villanueva. I'd rather have Villy back but I can see why they won't. Ilyasova is cheaper and trading for Amir Johnson kind of already put a Villy return in question.

Ridnour was descent but trading him frees up more cap room. Stackhouse has something like a $2 million buyout which would save another $5 million this year.

With all these trades though I wonder if they will go point guard or forward tonight. I'd love to get Jrue Holiday or DeMar DeRozen.

[diabsoule]

That'd be an awesome trade for Houston if they could pull it off.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by cvv84

He's like a less athletically Charlie Villanueva. I'd rather have Villy back but I can see why they won't. Ilyasova is cheaper and trading for Amir Johnson kind of already put a Villy return in question.

Ridnour was descent but trading him frees up more cap room. Stackhouse has something like a $2 million buyout which would save another $5 million this year.

With all these trades though I wonder if they will go point guard or forward tonight. I'd love to get Jrue Holiday or DeMar DeRozen.

Meh...he's a SF in the NBA still or atleast he'd be in a Rashard Lewis type PF role. I remember at one time he was getting Rashard Lewis and Turkoglu comparisons. He's a lot different then CV...and his game has grown a lot since going back over seas. His post game is still too poor to play PF in the NBA and his body is better suited for SF...but I do like his potential. He'll never be Lewis or Turkoglu but, he could be a good role player and perhaps even a good starter if his development continues. He's been fantastic for his Euro teams...he just keeps getting better. There is still a lot of potential there. He's an intriguing guy.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

DeShawn Stevenson could be a nice addition for a team if he's fully healthy, I think he could grow into a go to guy for the right team, but he'd be a great rotational player.


Side note I really like Chris Broussard and his reports of the NBA, I don't think I like anyone like that for football except maybe Michael Smith but he's not the main guy they always talk to when there is a football trade.

Are you talking about BONNNNNNNG Stevenson???

[CC.SD]

Originally Posted by diabsoule

That'd be an awesome trade for Houston if they could pull it off.

If they resign Artest, that team would give me a woody and I don't even like Houston much.

Amare, Yao, Artest, Battier, Scola in the frontcourt? Niftyyy.

[senormysterioso]

Originally Posted by CC.SD

If they resign Artest, that team would give me a woody and I don't even like Houston much.

Amare, Yao, Artest, Battier, Scola in the frontcourt? Niftyyy.

6? Over/Under on how many games they would all be healthy at the same time

[CC.SD]

Originally Posted by senormysterioso

6? Over/Under on how many games they would all be healthy at the same time

That's why there's bunches of them.

On the other hand if Ariza doesn't re-sign priority 1B is Artest.

1A is Odom.

[sbh15]

Don't know if it's been posted, but...

Rumors that NJ trades Carter to Orlando for Lee, Battie, Alston.

[Paul]

Originally Posted by sbh15

Don't know if it's been posted, but...

Rumors that NJ trades Carter to Orlando for Lee, Battie, Alston.

Wow. Lee? That'd be extremely surprising.

Edit: Nevermind, legit source.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...lt_to_orlando/

[sbh15]

Originally Posted by Paul

Wow. Lee? That'd be extremely surprising.

Yeah, just popped up on ESPN. Nothing final yet, though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197

[thetedginnshow]

That'd be pretty hilarious.

[M.O.T.H.]

Trade Pietrus, my heart would break if we trade Lee.

[M.O.T.H.]

There is only one ball seriously.

Nelson, Carter, Turkoglu, Lewis, Howard. really?

[aNYtitan]

Hmmm...I know why you would want to trade Alston cause he is a piece that doesn't fit in Orlando, Battie is a trade chip because of his expiring contract, but Lee? One of the good youngsters that they got. And for Carter? I don't get why you would trade for a superstar past his prime who needs the ball in his hands. Are they preparing themselves for life without Hedo already?

[M.O.T.H.]

I think they would still try to sign Hedo but, rumor has it they would also get Ryan Anderson. So, they could be thinking. Nelson, Carter, Lewis, Anderson, Howard.

I'd be happy to see Lee have such a prominent role and be counted on as a go to type guy but, nah...I want him on my team.

[cvv84]

Vince Carter traded to the Magic!

Various sources are reporting that Vince Carter has been traded to the Orlando Magic for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie and Courtney Lee.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb..._to_magic.html

[aNYtitan]

Originally Posted by cvv84

Vince Carter traded to the Magic!

Various sources are reporting that Vince Carter has been traded to the Orlando Magic for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie and Courtney Lee.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb..._to_magic.html

Don't see it anywhere except for this blog, idk how the Boston sportswriters would get this before a NY journalist or an Orlando journalist

[M.O.T.H.]

It's going to happen. I'm pretty pissed off. You should see the Magic forums...Courtney Lee has pretty much grown into the teams second most popular player behind Dwight. Not a lot of happy Magic fans.

On the flip side...this may make Orlando the team to beat but, I honestly dont care if it involves losing Lee.