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Old 08-24-2009, 05:43 PM    (permalink
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I'm hearing on my end that the CJ Watson talks aren't dead.

Jason Williams was signed to apply pressure to the Warriors, who were trying to screw the Magic out of the trade exemption because they thought the Magic were desperate for PG depth.

But the Warriors still have to get rid of Watson, because Watson is being very reluctant to sign their offer (and that's an understatement). Possible trade: Watson for Anthony Johnson, cash and a second-round pick.
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I'm hearing on my end that the CJ Watson talks aren't dead.

Jason Williams was signed to apply pressure to the Warriors, who were trying to screw the Magic out of the trade exemption because they thought the Magic were desperate for PG depth.

But the Warriors still have to get rid of Watson, because Watson is being very reluctant to sign their offer (and that's an understatement). Possible trade: Watson for Anthony Johnson, cash and a second-round pick.
I love the sound of that!
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I love the sound of that!
I hope it happens. A PG group of Nelson, Williams and Johnson is ok, but if Nelson goes down we're in trouble.

Imagine Watson coming off the bench. He can be electrifying on offense at times, can play a little two, and he provides the team with a longer PG the team needs badly.

I'd be hard-pressed to find a team with a better bench than the Magic if it happens.
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Well I can't root for a crazy. D:
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I hate Ricky Rubio. I hope he never plays in the NBA
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Ricky Rubio = Michael Crabtree?
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Maybe if Crabtree signed with the California Redwoods.
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But Ricky Rubio has boyish good looks! He looks like a beatle!
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What's up with the Rubio talk all of a sudden?
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NOW the CJ Watson talks are dead.

All the Magic fans can do now is see what kind of contract Watson signed. If it's for three years then that sucks. If the one year qualifying option, we're going to get him next offseason.
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What's up with the Rubio talk all of a sudden?
IDK but I like him personally, the timberwolves ain't exactly a place where you can make a ton of money marketing to pay off your exorbitant buyout, so why would you want to come play for free in the states basically?
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IDK but I like him personally, the timberwolves ain't exactly a place where you can make a ton of money marketing to pay off your exorbitant buyout, so why would you want to come play for free in the states basically?

Then he shouldn't have entered the draft.
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Was he expecting to play for the Lakers or something?
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IDK but I like him personally, the timberwolves ain't exactly a place where you can make a ton of money marketing to pay off your exorbitant buyout, so why would you want to come play for free in the states basically?
It really depends on what they're able to negotiate that buyout down to. I am of the belief that buyout negotiations are one of the bigger reasons for bringing Barcelona and such to the table and in the end he would still be making more during his rookie contract than he would in his current contract with joventut. The main reason he'd want to come play in the states right now though is to get to that second contract sooner.
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Was he expecting to play for the Lakers or something?
The Knicks. He was probably counting on them being slotted a little higher.
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It really depends on what they're able to negotiate that buyout down to. I am of the belief that buyout negotiations are one of the bigger reasons for bringing Barcelona and such to the table and in the end he would still be making more during his rookie contract than he would in his current contract with joventut. The main reason he'd want to come play in the states right now though is to get to that second contract sooner.
But I also heard that the Barcelona deal holds the same sort of restrictions that he has with Joventut. De-escalating buyout payment that becomes I think 0 or at least manageable in 2010? I'd also be under the impression that Rubio could snub the Timb's if Flynn is doing well at PG, given that he is signing for 6 years with one of the better European teams.
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But I also heard that the Barcelona deal holds the same sort of restrictions that he has with Joventut. De-escalating buyout payment that becomes I think 0 or at least manageable in 2010? I'd also be under the impression that Rubio could snub the Timb's if Flynn is doing well at PG, given that he is signing for 6 years with one of the better European teams.
Well I honestly don't believe he's using Barcelona for anything more than a means to negotiate the buyout, so that he can end up paying it himself and come to the NBA, but I might be slightly biased. If Rubio does end up playing in Spain for another two years and Flynn is doing well enough to take hold of our starting PG spot full time, we can simply use Rubio as a trade chip, as his value should only increase over time (barring injury). I really don't buy that he would stay over in Europe for anymore than two years under any circumstance given his supposed desire to play in the NBA.
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Well I honestly don't believe he's using Barcelona for anything more than a means to negotiate the buyout, so that he can end up paying it himself and come to the NBA, but I might be slightly biased. If Rubio does end up playing in Spain for another two years and Flynn is doing well enough to take hold of our starting PG spot full time, we can simply use Rubio as a trade chip, as his value should only increase over time (barring injury). I really don't buy that he would stay over in Europe for anymore than two years under any circumstance given his supposed desire to play in the NBA.
his trade value can only decrease it isnt going to go up.
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his trade value can only decrease it isnt going to go up.
How so? Kid has one of the highest ceilings i've ever seen and is still only 18
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Its a great question because he has great value right now as a 17 year old with tons of talent. Usually when you get older your trade value decreases slightly (given that those are 2 years that could be spent playing pro ball in the NBA). But if he comes back a more finished product, then he should be able to maintain his current value, if not increase. But of course there is always the possibility of injury, or a flaw being unmasked in Europe that isn't easily corrected. You never know
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How so? Kid has one of the highest ceilings i've ever seen and is still only 18
you can go back and read the draft thread were i had this same argument for like at least 7 pages with t-wolves fan's.

The simple version is he just going to be a older version of himself with the same question marks as before when he entered the draft. He is game isn't going to improve overseas its just going to stay the same. Playing overseas isn't going to some how show he can play in the NBA and with the more draft classes and free agents that come in not as many teams are going to need pg's and its going to lower his value around the league basically if they wanted to get the most they can for him the time 2 trade him would have been draft night cause the longer his little soap opera drags on his value gets lower.
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