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Old 05-18-2010, 11:35 PM    (permalink
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I dunno, what insider info would he have? The shares are publicly owned, and he would be purchasing into a company that he works for. Its like when starbucks employees get shares for working at starbucks.
He would have the insider of info of knowing the team would be signing the best player in the league.
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Well what if he buys the stock after he signs?
I imagine the NBA has some sort of rule that the owner of a team can't also be a player(or one will be instilled once a publicly shared team happens), so the point is moot
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He would have the insider of info of knowing the team would be signing the best player in the league.
Alright, but if his friends and advisers were to purchase into the Knicks, at the moment they sign him, that wouldn't be illegal. I don't believe this would get considered as insider information.

And in regards to your response to LT, it's like the fan's dream of owning the team and playing for it. No rule that I know of stops that. What would stop an owner from being an employee?
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I imagine the NBA has some sort of rule that the owner of a team can't also be a player(or one will be instilled once a publicly shared team happens), so the point is moot
He wouldn't literally own the team. That would be James Dolan. Lebron according to the article he would be buying publicly traded shares not literally buying the team.
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Alright, but if his friends and advisers were to purchase into the Knicks, at the moment they sign him, that wouldn't be illegal. I don't believe this would get considered as insider information.

And in regards to your response to LT, it's like the fan's dream of owning the team and playing for it. No rule that I know of stops that. What would stop an owner from being an employee?
At the moment they sign him the stock would instantaneously skyrocket and they wouldn't be able to capatalize on it.

Ya nvm...I'm pretty sure MJ was a part owner when he played on the Wizards so it prob would be allowed. My bad
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I thought MJ had to sell his share in the Wizards in order to play? I remember hearing that the NHL allowed it, so Mario Lemieux played for Pittsburgh while owning them, but MJ had to sell his share in the Wizards. That's why he owns the Bobcats.
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I thought MJ had to sell his share in the Wizards in order to play? I remember hearing that the NHL allowed it, so Mario Lemieux played for Pittsburgh while owning them, but MJ had to sell his share in the Wizards. That's why he is/was in Charlotte's front office.
Idk about the Wizards thing.

But Michael bought a minority ownership in the bobcats then when the BET guy was the owner(don't remember his actual name at the moment). Then when he decided to sell Michael bought it and become the Majority owner.
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I never said he wasn't a good shooter.... :/

But his ability to control the tempo of the game, set up teammates, break his opponent down, make clutch plays, hit free throws and just demoralize the other team and break hearts is the best in the league.
You mean the guy who's almost as bad as Dwight Howard at shooting free throws is good at hitting them?

But yes, Chris Paul and Deron Williams can do all those things but they also can shoot and score at a superior rate. And are superior passers. Defensively Rondo is top notch though.
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Come on D. No debate? There is no way in hell you can say he's better then Deron or Chris Paul without a debate, I'd argue he's not on that level yet, let alone clearly better.


How quickly can you forget about how good Deron has been these playoffs, and what CP3 is when healthy. Rondo is up there, but he's nowhere near clearly better.
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Call me crazy, but I'd still take Nash over Rondo.
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Come on D. No debate? There is no way in hell you can say he's better then Deron or Chris Paul without a debate, I'd argue he's not on that level yet, let alone clearly better.


How quickly can you forget about how good Deron has been these playoffs, and what CP3 is when healthy. Rondo is up there, but he's nowhere near clearly better.
Rondo had an amazing night....again. Yes, I'm getting carried away, but I think the debate is closer than most think. Rondo plays elite defense compared to those two. I haven't seen him miss an important shot in a long time.
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Celtics/Lakers O will that be a great match up, Kobe has a chip on his shoulder against the Celtics, that series could go 7
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Rondo had an amazing night....again. Yes, I'm getting carried away, but I think the debate is closer than most think. Rondo plays elite defense compared to those two. I haven't seen him miss an important shot in a long time.
Hes played great during these play offs, but i would still put him just a TAD behind D Will and CP3
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Another reason why the Magic are 0-2 is because Rashard Lewis has been completely shutdown by the Celtic's Defense. His offense has been non-existent and he's actually hurting the team with his piss poor defense and sulking on the floor. SVG should be giving more minutes to Ryan Anderson and Brandon Bass if Lewis keeps up this act.

That's one thing I like about Doc... He knows how to use his bench.
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I don't know if I'm willing to say he's better than CP3 or Deron Williams...yet but this season Rondo has shown that he's on that top tier in the PG picture, I think who is "best" just depends on personal preference. Hopefully another beastly PG from Kentucky will be joining him on that top tier soon ;)
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I don't know if I'm willing to say he's better than CP3 or Deron Williams...yet but this season Rondo has shown that he's on that top tier in the PG picture, I think who is "best" just depends on personal preference. Hopefully another beastly PG from Kentucky will be joining him on that top tier soon ;)
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I know why Otis Smith signed Brandon Bass, but I have no idea why SVG doesn't use him. Bass was a beast last year in the playoffs. I was so excited to get him, but this makes me equally as pissed. So frustrating.

...it's nice to be posting back in this forum. :)

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I never said he wasn't a good shooter.... :/

But his ability to control the tempo of the game, set up teammates, break his opponent down, make clutch plays, hit free throws and just demoralize the other team and break hearts is the best in the league.
You don't watch Chris Paul?
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He would have the insider of info of knowing the team would be signing the best player in the league.
That's not exactly how it works. This isn't insider trading at all. LeBron is not an "insider" of MSG Inc., nor is he receiving any non-public information from an current insider or employee. An example of insider trading would be if he signs with the Knicks, two years later the team tells him privately that they're trading him, so he sells all his stock the night before the trade.
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I miss Turk. No way Orlando loses that game last night with him on the court. Stupid Raptors not using him correctly...
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I hate both teams in the ECF, but I guess if I had to choose, go Celtics. This final 4 definitely sucks though. 3 of the 4 teams I hate and the other one I'm just neutral to(Phoenix).

*sigh* at least the Blackhawks are kickin' ass, I guess.
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I don't know how to respond to the lottery results. Once again, the Kings got beat against the odds. There was a 69.5% chance that the Kings would get a top 4 pick (in a 4 player draft). And the Kings get #5. Last year there was a 64.2% chance the Kings would get a top 3 pick. The Kings got #4.

This is killing me! I knew that I would love to have Turner, Wall or Favors. I am half passionately in love with Cousins and half passionately afraid of him. It was almost 50/50 that the Kings would get #3--a shot to choose between Favors/Cousins. But no. Commissioner Stern had to rig the lottery to compensate the Wiz for Arenas' stupidity. I mean really, how horrible is it going to be over the next half decade to listen to ESPN talking about how the Wizards seemed doomed to failure, but then they won the lottery against all odds (10.3% chance) and now Wall has singularly brought their team back from the brink of extinction and into relevance.

So who do I support the Kings drafting now? The silky smooth SF in Wesley Johnson--the one who doesn't have an incredible ceiling because of his lack of explosive athleticism? Or do I support the incredibly explosive Al-Farouq Aminu--a player who is all athleticism (more explosive than anyone the Kings have had since Gerald Wallace sat on the bench in their playoff run) and little polish? If the Kings are looking for someone with star-level upside, it's Aminu, but that is a scary scary pick due to how far he has to go to get there.

And then, of course, the Kings would have to deal with the logjam at SF with Donte Greene and Omri Casspi. In reaction to this, the Kings could reach for a guy like Xavier Henry who is a SG and whose calling card is a very good jumpshot (to balance out the backcourt with Evans' slashing), but he too lacks explosiveness. And I'm not sold on his ability to be a top player in the NBA which is what the Kings need. With a team like the Kings, you don't pick a player who seems to profile with a ceiling as the 4th best player on a championship team. The Kings need to pick someone who can be an All-Star in the future.

Would have been a lot easier if they had gotten a top 3 pick...
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Farouq started to develop an outside game last year. I'd probably take Wes Johnson because of his nice floor.
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