NBA Discussion Thread - Page 1903

iowatreat54 · 11-20-2010, 10:48 AM

The Bulls didn't lose because of Gallo. The Bulls lost because the entire Knicks team shot like 70% and 50% from 3. Even if Gallo wasn't playing, they still would have lost.

And I'm sorry, but if Gallo is the best player on the team like you say, and is the best with the ball in his hands, driving, play making, or shooting, then why is he being ignored? I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt the team has some conspiracy to avoid him. I'm not saying you're wrong in that he doesn't get the ball sometimes, but I'm saying if he really was as good as you say, the Knicks would make it a point to not keep the ball from him. And it's not the offense or coaching, both of which have proven to be not bad/dumb. They aren't purposely avoiding Gallo.

And just for the record, I don't think what you say about Gallo is untrue. I think he's a very good shooter and is probably underrated as a playmaker. But my biggest beef with him is that he is terribly inconsistent. He has proven that he can light it up some games, and other games he absolutely blows. And the problem I have is in the games I've seen where he blows, he keeps throwing up 3s and long jumpers and missing horribly. If he really is better at driving, then he hasn't shown it. And I just can't understand why if he is all these things, he doesn't show it?

iowatreat54 · 11-20-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilNixon

Durant's efficiency has been meh so far. Monta is better on both ends right now. Monta has a shot to pass Wade. Kobe has been extremely good lately, so no. Especially if they keep his minutes in check.

I think I've already made my man crush on LeBron James clear enough.

He will never pass Dwight Howard or CP3 in terms of impact...EVER!

Top 5 right now
1.LeBron
2.CP3
3. Dwight
4.Kobe
5.Wade

The gap between Wade and Monta isn't huge.

You're really saying Durant isn't a top 5 player in the NBA? Well, ok, I'm going to watch football since this argument is over...

Rosebud · 11-20-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by iowatreat54

The Bulls didn't lose because of Gallo. The Bulls lost because the entire Knicks team shot like 70% and 50% from 3. Even if Gallo wasn't playing, they still would have lost.

And I'm sorry, but if Gallo is the best player on the team like you say, and is the best with the ball in his hands, driving, play making, or shooting, then why is he being ignored? I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt the team has some conspiracy to avoid him. I'm not saying you're wrong in that he doesn't get the ball sometimes, but I'm saying if he really was as good as you say, the Knicks would make it a point to not keep the ball from him. And it's not the offense or coaching, both of which have proven to be not bad/dumb. They aren't purposely avoiding Gallo.

And just for the record, I don't think what you say about Gallo is untrue. I think he's a very good shooter and is probably underrated as a playmaker. But my biggest beef with him is that he is terribly inconsistent. He has proven that he can light it up some games, and other games he absolutely blows. And the problem I have is in the games I've seen where he blows, he keeps throwing up 3s and long jumpers and missing horribly. If he really is better at driving, then he hasn't shown it. And I just can't understand why if he is all these things, he doesn't show it?

It's a conspiracy of circumstance, no one on the team is good enough to create the looks we need to be creating for Amare without some extra space. We are too young and too new to one another to create that space through off the ball movement and no one can shoot the ball as well as a fully healthy Gallo, so Gallo's stuck out sitting on the perimeter to keep guys like Chandler from having to take 3s that they have no hope of making. That's why Gallo had to take so many late in the shot clock contested threes last year because we didn't create a better shot than hoping that Gallo can hit a bad 3.

He's so inconsistent because he's not a natural shooter, when he's in a rhythm and just zones in he can be absolutely deadly from deep, which is why we have him playing the role he does, but that's not the game he grew up playing so he really needs to get that rhythm going and stay involved to be that guy, which we're just to young and lack the chemistry to do regularly.

With the games where his shot is off he's still a big help, he's had a couple digit rebound or close games, he plays good D, makes good passes but he keeps shooting 3s because someone on this team has to. Someone needs to get the other team thinking about the dump out 3 when Felton and Amare are running the pick n roll to amare's bad hand. So even though Gallo's not hitting them we need him to keep taking them. As for the Bulls game we won because Felton and Dougie stayed hot, if they revert to their usual level we lose and you guys come back even more when you did.

Plus the kid is averaging more FTs than 3s so it's not like he's not driving with great success now, it's just something we need him to be doing more of which would take a better 3 point shooter on the team, which we don't have, which would also solve the problem of our poor team shooting so far.

Da-Phins · 11-20-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 619

It's okay, Vikes. King Monta is the next Laker target.

Nobody wants to talk about the Hornets, but the job that Dell Demps and Monty Williams have accomplished in New Orleans is by far the top story in the NBA this season. The addition of Ariza was a very underrated move. He wasn't on his game offensively tonight, however.

When is he ever?

However, I do miss his defense and athleticism when he was in Houston. **** you Rockets! Goddamn Courtney Lee isnt doing **** this season.

diabsoule · 11-20-2010, 11:16 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5828835

Hornets and Raptors are involved in trade talks that would send F Peja Stojakovic and PG Jerryd Bayless to Toronto in exchange for PG Jarrett Jack, C David Anderson, and PG Marcus Banks. Interesting note: Peja is in the final year of his contract earning $14.3 million.

I like this trade for the Hornets as it adds some front court depth with Anderson and upgrades the backup PG position with Jack, who is reportedly to be one of Chris Paul's best friends. What I don't like about it is that NOLA loses Peja's expiring deal.

Forenci · 11-20-2010, 11:30 AM

Yeah. How much salary and for how long will NOR be on the line for?

If I were them I'd want to keep the expiring.

Chucky · 11-20-2010, 01:02 PM

Colangelo trades for another ******* foreigner. I'm shocked. That makes one million on the team now. With that said I guess I like this deal for the Raps. While I am a big fan of Jarret Jack getting Pejas expiring is more valuable(insert Hedo joke here), and Bayless is still young I guess.

PG-Calderon
SG-Barbosa
SF-Peja
PF-Kleiza
C- Bargs

Colangelo just jizzed his pants

M.O.T.H. · 11-20-2010, 01:28 PM

I knew as soon as I saw the headline that the Hornets made another trade, that it would involve Bayless.

Chucky · 11-20-2010, 10:06 PM

Brodeur · 11-20-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

Colangelo trades for another ******* foreigner. I'm shocked. That makes one million on the team now. With that said I guess I like this deal for the Raps. While I am a big fan of Jarret Jack getting Pejas expiring is more valuable(insert Hedo joke here), and Bayless is still young I guess.

PG-Calderon
SG-Barbosa
SF-Peja
PF-Kleiza
C- Bargs

Colangelo just jizzed his pants

That might be the worst defensive team of all time.

sweetness34 · 11-20-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

That might be the worst defensive team of all time.

They're going to ******* rain 3's. It'll be exciting when they hit them, but they're also going to get blown the **** out a lot too without any inside presence/rebounding outside of Evans.

SickwithIt1010 · 11-20-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilNixon

Durant's efficiency has been meh so far. Monta is better on both ends right now. Monta has a shot to pass Wade. Kobe has been extremely good lately, so no. Especially if they keep his minutes in check.

I think I've already made my man crush on LeBron James clear enough.

He will never pass Dwight Howard or CP3 in terms of impact...EVER!

Top 5 right now
1.LeBron
2.CP3
3. Dwight
4.Kobe
5.Wade

The gap between Wade and Monta isn't huge.

until Dwight has a more consistent post game i dont see him being above Kobe or Wade....and not even Durant.

with that said....

1) Kobe (little homer in me, but hes got the rings)
2) Lebron
3) Durtantula
4) Wade
5) Howard
5a) CP3

Brodeur · 11-20-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

until Dwight has a more consistent post game i dont see him being above Kobe or Wade....and not even Durant.

with that said....

1) Kobe (little homer in me, but hes got the rings)
2) Lebron
3) Durtantula
4) Wade
5) Howard
5a) CP3

CP3 at 5? HAHAHAHAHAHA.

sweetness34 · 11-20-2010, 10:27 PM

Right now;

1) LeBron
2) Durant
3) Kobe
4) Wade
5) CP3 (Paul will go up on my list as the season goes on)

Chucky · 11-20-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

That might be the worst defensive team of all time.

It's Colangelo's ultimate Euro lineup.

Real starting lineup now is

PG-Calderon
SG-Demar
SF-Sonny Weems
PF-Reggie Evans(although Amir should be starting soon)
C-Andrea Bargnani

so uh ya....Harrison Barnes or Kyle Irving would look nice right about there.

Chucky · 11-20-2010, 10:31 PM

1) Gallo
2) Toney Douglas
3) Bill Walker
4) Wilson Chandler
5) Timofy Mozgov

Forenci · 11-20-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

1) Gallo
2) Toney Douglas
3) Bill Walker
4) Wilson Chandler
5) Timofy Mozgov

LOL YOU'RE SO ORIGINAL!

Way to spell Timofey wrong, btw.

Also, Chandler and Gallo are better than anyone on your team not also from Italy.

Chucky · 11-20-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Forenci

LOL YOU'RE SO ORIGINAL!

Way to spell Timofey wrong, btw.

O sorry my bad....I thought we were making a list of top 5 players that LeBron wants to play with.

But my real top 5 list right now

1)LeBron
2)Durantula
3)CP3
4)Kobe
5) wade

SickwithIt1010 · 11-20-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

CP3 at 5? HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetness34

Right now;

1) LeBron
2) Durant
3) Kobe
4) Wade
5) CP3 (Paul will go up on my list as the season goes on)

hmmm seems like someone sees it the same as me....

HAHAHAHAHA.....hack

Chucky · 11-20-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Forenci

Also, Chandler and Gallo are better than anyone on your team not also from Italy.

...that is correct...unless you count Harrison Barnes :D

Brodeur · 11-20-2010, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetness34

Right now;

1) LeBron
2) Durant
3) Kobe
4) Wade
5) CP3 (Paul will go up on my list as the season goes on)

CP3 > Wade and Durant.

Forenci · 11-20-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

hmmm seems like someone sees it the same as me....

HAHAHAHAHA.....hack

He also has Kobe at 3, not numero uno.

Personally I have Kobe as 4th.

1. LeBron
2. CP3
3. Durant
4. Kobe
5. Wade

Paul is amazing. No one touches him in terms of his ability to improve an entire team. Plus he never turns the ball over and creates tons of turnovers for the opposing team with his steals. Not to mention he is scoring incredibly efficiently.

Easily the MVP so far.

SickwithIt1010 · 11-20-2010, 11:10 PM

nevermind....

KCJ58 · 11-20-2010, 11:17 PM

Blake Griffin is ******* unreal, a human highlight reel tonight

gpngc · 11-20-2010, 11:20 PM

1 - Kobe
2 - LeBron
3 - Paul
4 - Durant
5 - Wade
6 - Gasol
7 - Howard
8 - D Will

That's the top tier for me. After those 8 you've got guys like Melo, Rondo, Rose, Westbrook, Dirk, etc.

And two guys who are vaulting up into the second tier: Rudy Gaay and J Smoove.