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Old 05-13-2011, 07:02 PM    (permalink
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Rose is far closer to Jordan mentally than LeBron
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Rose needs to chill with Charlie Sheen like Jordan does.
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People credit Jordan with wanting it more because he won championships. If LeBron had the help Jordan had during the Bulls' runs, nobody would be questioning LeBron's desire.

and let us not forget that LeBron's career is not over. LeBron is 26. Jordan was 28 when he won his first title.

^ Not a fact that people who don't like LeBron are fond of. :D
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People credit Jordan with wanting it more because he won championships. If LeBron had the help Jordan had during the Bulls' runs, nobody would be questioning LeBron's desire.

and let us not forget that LeBron's career is not over. LeBron is 26. Jordan was 28 when he won his first title.

^ Not a fact that people who don't like LeBron are fond of. :D
Well, LeBron has just as many seasons. LeBron's desire has nothing to do with his supporting cast.
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People credit Jordan with wanting it more because he won championships. If LeBron had the help Jordan had during the Bulls' runs, nobody would be questioning LeBron's desire.

and let us not forget that LeBron's career is not over. LeBron is 26. Jordan was 28 when he won his first title.

^ Not a fact that people who don't like LeBron are fond of. :D
Right, because Jordan didn't have **** around him his first 7 seasons. LeBron quit on his team last year. That is something Jordan would have never done. That is the difference between the two players.

It's been written on here before, but Jordan was kind of a sociopath. He made up things in his head to gain a mental edge and sacrificed everything in order to win. LeBron doesn't nor will he ever have the work ethic and competitiveness that Michael had. I have no doubt that LeBron will win a title or two, but I don't see him accomplishing the individual or team success Jordan attained.
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Even when separated by a comma, we should all consciously not put LBJ. In the same sentence as MJ, it is disrespectful.
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Eh, I loathe LeBron more than any athlete in sports, but the guy is ******* good. He shut me up in Game 5 against Boston with that clutch performance.

I think Jordan has been put on a pretty ridiculous pedestal at times and I'm one his biggest supporters. It's like he can't be touched and I think that's disrespectful to players like Magic, Bird, Kareem, Russell and the other greats.
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Eh, I loathe LeBron more than any athlete in sports, but the guy is ******* good. He shut me up in Game 5 against Boston with that clutch performance.

I think Jordan has been put on a pretty ridiculous pedestal at times and I'm one his biggest supporters. It's like he can't be touched and I think that's disrespectful to players like Magic, Bird, Kareem, Russell and the other greats.
LeBron is good, yes. He is the best player in the league. And Magic, Bird, and others you listed are obviously awesome players, and top 5-10 in history, but I put everyone a level below MJ, and I don't think that will ever change.
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I wonder how different this debate would be if Lebron and Jordan played in the same era.
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I wonder how different this debate would be if Lebron and Jordan played in the same era.
I'm not sure LBJ would have the mental toughness to take on the pressure put on by the physicality of those old school defenses.

For me...MJ is no 1 no doubt, but I don't think he's a whole notch above Magic. That's just imho.n
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Yeah 6'8 250lb LeBron James would really have trouble with those old school players.



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Ya dood, size and strength is the only way to measure how you can deal with tough play

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ROFL!
No offense dude but you might be the biggest LeBron fanboy I've ever seen.
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I love the irony of "no offense but". You always know what's coming when someone says that. :D

Seriously though, LeBron would rag doll most of those wiry old school players with their high socks and short shorts. A more physical game would play to his strength...literally.
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Except that he is mentally a baby. One knock to the floor by Bill Lambier and LeBron would be allergic to the paint
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I love the irony of "no offense but". You always know what's coming when someone says that. :D

Seriously though, LeBron would rag doll most of those wiry old school players with their high socks and short shorts. A more physical game would play to his strength...literally.
you should not be allowed to speak on this subject ever.
ever ever ever.
in a physical game where Lebron didn't get every call he'd start weeping. but this is ridiculous, posting a picture of one of the greatest players of all time saying lebron would have trouble in his era. absurd.
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Ya, but Larry Bird is white and we all know white men can't jump or play ball.
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woo looks like we're going to Game 7. Best series by far.
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This has been an amazing series.
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You guys are dumb saying Lebron would be crying if he played in Jordan era with the hard fouls and all that BS. LeBron would be used to the physical play if he grew up in that era.

A lot of LeBbron hate right now.
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That assumption is based on absolutely nothing though.
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Bird would put him on the floor and Lebron would start crying, those guys back in the day played a helluva lot harder than anyone we got in the game right now. The bad boys in Detroit would have their way with a guy like Lebron.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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lol @ bringing up a player who actually played in that era and dominated
to prove your point that LBJ would hypothetically do well.

Brilliant.
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lol @ bringing up a player who actually played in that era and dominated
to prove your point that LBJ would hypothetically do well.

Brilliant.
Was that directed at me or Halsey? lol
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