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Old 06-21-2011, 03:42 PM    (permalink
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Question for you basketball gurus...

In a pure basketball sense... which starting 5 is better?

Team A
PG Brandon Knight
SG Kevin Martin
SF Andrei Kirilenko
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Amare Stoudemire

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Team B
PG Mike Conley
SG Kevin Martin
SF Wes Johnson
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol

Considering chemistry, ball movement, personalities, defense, offense, future outlook... which team do you think is better?
Man....Team B..but if you trade Pau for Amare..I'd take Team A.
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Team B easily. Knight is a combo guard at this point, Conley is much further along as a true PG. That's important because pairing Martin and Knight in the backcourt gives you two of the same type of player (Martin is just a more efficient scorer). Johnson/Kirelenko is irrelevant to me, I'd guess Johnson is more athletic and AK47 has fallen off, so I give Wes the edge there. Both frontcourts are soft defensively but Dirk and Amar'e is pourous (sp?).
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I actually think the front court of Dirk and Amare is better. But the backcourt of team B outweighs that
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I actually think the front court of Dirk and Amare is better. But the backcourt of team B outweighs that
Dirk and Amare operate the same areas..Pau and Dirk would be a very nice tandem.
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Dirk and Amare operate the same areas..Pau and Dirk would be a very nice tandem.
But defensively? I know Amare isn't the greatest but I'd much rather pair Amare and Dirk for defensive purposes. That why they(Pau and Dirk) are both paired with bangers now.
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Team B

Conley > Knight
Pau/Dirk > Pau/Stat
SF is whatever.

So with that, I make my choice.
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Dirk and Amare operate the same areas..Pau and Dirk would be a very nice tandem.
I started leaning towards Team A... but I think I'm leaning towards Team B now. :)

what if instead of AK47 you could get any FA at the MLE level? What if I used Amare to get a better C? Amare has more trade value than Pau, I think... what Center would you go for if you can't get Dwight? Or I could keep Amare and trade Dirk for a C... thoughts?
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How is Amar'e guarding centers better than Pau guarding centers? At least Pau has the size and length to bother a lot of guys at that position, and he's a much better rebounder than Stoudemire is.
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I will take team A mainly cause of Stat
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I started leaning towards Team A... but I think I'm leaning towards Team B now. :)

what if instead of AK47 you could get any FA at the MLE level? What if I used Amare to get a better C? Amare has more trade value than Pau, I think... what Center would you go for if you can't get Dwight? Or I could keep Amare and trade Dirk for a C... thoughts?
I'd attempt to get C.Butler.
As for a C, gamble and make a play for Oden.
If I was trading Stat then a deal involving Bogut? M.Gasol?
A C that can defend the paint ala T.Chandler is a perfect match for Dirk
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Gimme team B. Conley and Wes are better than Knight and AK
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Then would you trade Dirk for a C? If so, which C in the league would compliment him best?
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I will take team A mainly cause of Stat and because i'm a homer
Well at least you're honest.
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I'd attempt to get C.Butler.
As for a C, gamble and make a play for Oden.
If I was trading Stat then a deal involving Bogut? M.Gasol?
A C that can defend the paint ala T.Chandler is a perfect match for Dirk
Ooh Butler! I like that mention... might be too pricey.
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I forgot to say... Team B could add a FA with the MLE and they have the #9 pick of the draft.

Team A
PG Brandon Knight (#4 pick)
SG Kevin Martin
SF Andrei Kirilenko or Caron Butler (MLE)
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Amare Stoudemire

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Team B
PG Mike Conley
SG Kevin Martin
SF Wes Johnson
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol
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Lol. It had nothing to do with being a knick.
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How is Amar'e guarding centers better than Pau guarding centers? At least Pau has the size and length to bother a lot of guys at that position, and he's a much better rebounder than Stoudemire is.
Like I said, Amare isn't the greatest but I would still take his defense over Pau's. Just my opinion and no I'm not a Knick fan lol
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Like I said, Amare isn't the greatest but I would still take his defense over Pau's. Just my opinion and no I'm not a Knick fan lol
With Dirk getting old, I do like Amare becoming my PF and then trading Dirk for a C. But who could I add next to Amare to be dominant? ...without being able to get Howard.
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I forgot to say... Team B could add a FA with the MLE and they have the #9 pick of the draft.

Team A
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SF Andrei Kirilenko or Caron Butler (MLE)
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Amare Stoudemire

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PG Mike Conley
SG Kevin Martin
SF Wes Johnson
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol
-MLE to use
#9 pick of the draft
I think Butler will get a little more than the MLE, so i'm not sure you could throw him into team a quite yet.

For Team B, you could add a guy like JJ Barea with your MLE and then take a defensive minded big like Bismack Biyombo at #9. Or you could try to improve your wing position and take Kawhi Leonard instead.
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With Dirk getting old, I do like Amare becoming my PF and then trading Dirk for a C. But who could I add next to Amare to be dominant? ...without being able to get Howard.
Kendrick Perkins?
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Kendrick Perkins?
That's one guy that came to mind as well.
A.Bogut, D.Jordan, J.Noah, R.Hibbert, G.Monroe???
I don't know what to think about Dirk's trade value.
Yes, he's the Finals MVP but he is 33 (or about)
The Mavs gave up a lot for J.Kidd at about the same age so I don't know
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I would much rather take Team A. AK isnt the AK of the old but he can guard the opposing team's best perimeter player and I would trade that over the difference between Brandon Knight and Mike Conley. Especially since Kevin Martin isnt a good defender at all.
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I think Butler will get a little more than the MLE, so i'm not sure you could throw him into team a quite yet.

For Team B, you could add a guy like JJ Barea with your MLE and then take a defensive minded big like Bismack Biyombo at #9. Or you could try to improve your wing position and take Kawhi Leonard instead.
I like your suggestions. I do think Butler will go for more... sot that's a risk for Team A.

For Team B, I might try to add Jimmer at #9 to get a spark plug off the bench but also someone who could stretch the floor to create space for Nowitzki/Gasol down low.
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That's one guy that came to mind as well.
A.Bogut, D.Jordan, J.Noah, R.Hibbert, G.Monroe???
I don't know what to think about Dirk's trade value.
Yes, he's the Finals MVP but he is 33 (or about)
The Mavs gave up a lot for J.Kidd at about the same age so I don't know
Yeah, it's tough to find a dominant C. So if I had Amare and one of those guys... I think I like Dirk and Pau more. I'd have a shorter window to win, and their trade value would continue to decrease over the years... but I still think they have the edge.
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