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Old 06-23-2011, 01:17 PM    (permalink
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OK guys... need more opinions again...

Which 5 is better?

Team A
PG Mike Conley Jr.
SG Kevin Martin
SF Dirk Nowitzki
PF Pau Gasol
C Enes Kanter


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SG Kevin Martin
SF Derrick Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol


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So the Jameer Nelson for Andre Miller and 21 rumor, has been deemed as "overblown" by an unnamed Magic source.

Looking more and more like a quiet night for the Magic. I was really hoping we would have seen some kind of deal prior to the draft...for anyone, not just Orlando, really. I havent really expected Orlando to do anything, and I still think we'll end up trading that 2nd rounder. :/
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So the Jameer Nelson for Andre Miller and 21 rumor, has been deemed as "overblown" by an unnamed Magic source.

Looking more and more like a quiet night for the Magic. I was really hoping we would have seen some kind of deal prior to the draft...for anyone, not just Orlando, really. I havent really expected Orlando to do anything, and I still think we'll end up trading that 2nd rounder. :/
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gotta be B. I just can't see dirk being able to play the 3 spot
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lol. Realgm is a terrible forum.

So is any Magic forum, really. True Blue Nation is pretty pathetic too. They all seem to think Orlando will land three to four new starters this off-season. Pretty ridiculous stuff. Like landing Josh Smith, Nicolas Batum, J.R. Smith, AK47, and O.J. Mayo all in the same year. Because that kind of thing happens all the time. lol. They all seem hung up on getting O.J. Mayo for either Bass or a TPE...neither of which makes any sense for Memphis. The Grizz have freaking Randolph and Arthur at PF, what the hell would they do with Bass? lol. And managment said they're not looking to just give him away...they'd need a "significant upgrade", they're not looking to get rid of him just for the sake of doing it. A TPE would be completely pointless for them.

lol. I lurk at those forums, but I just couldnt see myself joining either of them. All those crazy posts would just piss me off too much. And I'm sure I'd get mass flamed for trying to talk some sense into them. haha.
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99% of individual team forums are awful.
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Well yeah...surprisingly enough, this has been the best basketball and baseball forum I have found also. lol. Homers run rampant in the outside indivisual team forums, and damn near most of them, have no idea how the business side of the game really works. Or actually really know anything about the team that they actually root for. The fickleness also tends to be at an insane level.

As for Cowboy forums...this is also the best one I've found. Most Cowboy fans are bandwagon idiots, who dont know jack. We have a really good group here. That's why I keep coming back. :D

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Seriously though, this forum offers a really broad range of knowledgable posters, over multiple sports and other topics. Havent found anything else like it.
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Which 5 is better?

Team A
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SG Kevin Martin
SF Dirk Nowitzki
PF Pau Gasol
C Enes Kanter


Team B
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SG Kevin Martin
SF Derrick Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol


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I guess B, although I can't say I love either one, both Pau and Dirk are best fits for the 4, Dirk is no longer quick enough to play the 3 and Pau gets muscled around when he needs to do the dirty work you'd expect form a C playing next to Nowitzki. If you can trade Pau for a SF I'd go with A, since I also think DW is a better fit at the 4 than the 3. *shrug*
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SG Kevin Martin
SF Dirk Nowitzki
PF Pau Gasol
C Enes Kanter


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PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol


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Team A...i'd prefer Kanter at the 5 over Williams at the 3
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dirk should never play the 3 and williams is alot better prospect than kanter imo
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OK guys... need more opinions again...

Which 5 is better?

Team A
PG Mike Conley Jr.
SG Kevin Martin
SF Dirk Nowitzki
PF Pau Gasol
C Enes Kanter


Team B
PG Mike Conley Jr.
SG Kevin Martin
SF Derrick Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol


This is not a fantasy league where stats matter most. This is a sim league, so chemistry, balance, passing, scoring, rebounding, defense, blah blah blah all matter.

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I don't like either. Dirk should never ever play 3. Pau isn't much of a 5. Williams will be better at the 4. I would even prefer Kanter at the 4 I think...

But all things considered, I would take team B.
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Hawks trying to trade Josh Smith to Minnesota for the 2nd pick so they can take Enes Kanter

Kings, Bobcats, Bucks agree to deal; Stephen Jackson to Milwaukee

update on deal

Bucks get :: Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, Beno Udrih, 19th pick

Kings get :: John Salmons, 10th pick

Bobcats get :: Corey Maggette, 7th pick
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If there is one thing that can make the chemistry in Minnesota worse, it would be trading for Josh Smith. That is a terrible trade. And if the Hawks do get the second pick, why wouldn't they take Williams?
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Kanter would play center so they could slide Horford to the 4
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Bucks get Beno, Stephen Jackson & 19. Bobcats get pick 7 & Maggette. Kings get 10 & John Salmons.

Edit: Apparently the Bucks get Shaun Livingston as well
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Which 5 is better?

Team A
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SG Kevin Martin
SF Dirk Nowitzki
PF Pau Gasol
C Enes Kanter


Team B
PG Mike Conley Jr.
SG Kevin Martin
SF Derrick Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Pau Gasol


This is not a fantasy league where stats matter most. This is a sim league, so chemistry, balance, passing, scoring, rebounding, defense, blah blah blah all matter.

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Team B. Just because Dirk doesn't need to play anywhere but the 4/5, and Derrick Williams makes a nice addition. Pau at 5 would get destroyed unless you had a back-up C to come in and do the dirty work. Even still this team would have to score 100+ every night. On both teams I'd probably consider trading Pau for something that fits a bit better, he seems like an odd fit on both teams IMO.


For instance, I'd like Team A alot more if you could move Pau for a SF, a nice scorer who could create their own shot. Team B has more star potential, but Pau and D Williams technically are out of position, and it's not like you can rely on Dirk for defensive assistance. He needs great defenders all around him ie Stevenson, Kidd, Chandler, Terry for things to work. If your looking at him to put forth a bigger effort on that side of the court at his age it's gonna be a disaster, that and I'd expect his offensive numbers to drop as well.
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Edit: Apparently the Bucks get Shaun Livingston as well
Not bad for the Kings. So I guess their not gonna get Tony Parker then. I like Salmons, very solid player, but him and Reke don't seem like they mesh well at all, but that's just me.
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I'm alright with the trade I guess, since we will likely be able to get the player we wanted at 10. Salmons can play SG and SF but I don't like his contract at all. Atleast the Kings still have a chance at drafting Jimmer!
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Thanks for all the responses guys. Dished out +rep to every post! :)
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I'm alright with the trade I guess, since we will likely be able to get the player we wanted at 10. Salmons can play SG and SF but I don't like his contract at all. Atleast the Kings still have a chance at drafting Jimmer!
Owners will win out. Jimmer will be a King. I like that match for him.
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Bout to head out to work, anyone want to volunteer in texting me when Josh Smith gets traded?
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sure, send me your # and i can let you know if atlanta does anything exciting
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I hate that trade for Milwaukee. John Salmons to Stephen Jackson isn't even an upgrade. Beno Udrih is a decent enough backup PG but you're also giving up a decent player in Maggete and moving down 9 spots? Why?

Edit-It's actually pretty bad for Sacramento too. Charlotte makes out pretty well.

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Charolette did very well in that. They basically turned Jackson and Livingston into a top 10 pick.
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