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Old 06-30-2011, 02:35 PM    (permalink
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We'll see. I'm fine if people will chalk that up to bias, because it may well be. He's 22 though, and I think he'll be great.

I also thought Bernard Berrian was going to be great, however, so my theories aren't full-proof.
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To be fair, while our record didn't improve significantly since the addition of Melo, I do think the trade was beneficial for us, mainly bc with Melo we finally have a "closer" on the roster.

Melo's offensive production speaks for itself, but his biggest contribution to the team is having that go to guy in the clutch. And for all of Melo's flaws, one thing he is great at is hitting those game winning shots. He's money.

I won't argue with the fact that we absolutely need a good PG or else we won't go anywhere. Melo and Stat are 2 scorers. They won't create for each other, they both need a creator to give them both their looks. So we definitely need a quality PG to do that for us.

As for Wade, top 2? I just don't see the guy as top 2 in the league. You're telling me you would take Wade over Durant?

If Wade and Rose switched places, I think Chicago would be worse and Miami would be better than they were. I just think Rose is a better player. He attacks better, he's a better passer, he runs the break just as well, I think they are on par on defense, and I think Wade has a better shot, but Rose's overall athleticism just puts him over the top to me.

If we're talking about just 1 season, I would still take Kobe over Wade as well. Long term no way, but for 1 season, I'd go Kobe.
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Wade is a waaaaaaaaaay better defender and more efficient.
I don't think he's a way better defender. Rose is a good defender.

Efficiency...meh. Rose isn't going to be extremely efficient when he's the only scorer worth a damn on the Bulls.

Wade has Bron and Bosh. It's a lot easier to be efficient with those 2 guys.
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Omri Casspi & future 1st for JJ Hickson

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6722764

could of had Amare 2 years ago, prob kept LeBron etc, but noooo Hickson was your guy & now you trade him for Omri Casspi

btw my Nash statement was more a figure of speech im sure i wouldn't list him top 10
I am guessing this all but makes Dalembert a UFA now. Cousins, Hickson and Thompson is a solid young big 3 to go along with Tyreke, Jimmer and Thornton in the back court.
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I don't think he's a way better defender. Rose is a good defender.

Efficiency...meh. Rose isn't going to be extremely efficient when he's the only scorer worth a damn on the Bulls.

Wade has Bron and Bosh. It's a lot easier to be efficient with those 2 guys.
Wade has always been more efficient than Rose, regardless of supporting cast. And Rose is a decent defender while Wade is borderline elite.
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I don't think he's a way better defender. Rose is a good defender.

Efficiency...meh. Rose isn't going to be extremely efficient when he's the only scorer worth a damn on the Bulls.

Wade has Bron and Bosh. It's a lot easier to be efficient with those 2 guys.

Who was worth a damn as a scorer on the Heat before Lebron and Bosh went there? After the Shaq era of course.

Also that trade is terrible for the Cavs. Casspi could barely get off the bench for one of the worst teams in the league. And I really doubt Thompson is ever as good as Hickson.

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Who was worth a damn as a scorer on the Heat before Lebron and Bosh went there? After the Shaq era of course.
Touche.

Beasley? I know that's a reach. Didn't he have Odom for a little bit?
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Who was worth a damn as a scorer on the Heat before Lebron and Bosh went there? After the Shaq era of course.

Also that trade is terrible for the Cavs. Casspi could barely get off the bench for one of the worst teams in the league. And I really doubt Thompson is ever as good as Hickson.
Casspi is a solidish roleplayer and Hickson is really really stupid. Sure he's talented, but I don't think they would go anywhere with him. Plus, he fits right in with the stupidity of Cousins and Evans.

Keep in mind that I am not a fan of Tristan Thompson at all, but whatever.
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my top 10

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Kevin Durant
4. Dwight Howard
5. LeBron James
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Chris Paul
8. Derrick Rose
9. Deron Williams
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Touche.

Beasley? I know that's a reach. Didn't he have Odom for a little bit?
Odom got traded for Shaq. Wade had Jermaine Oneal and Shawne Marion after Shaq. Both averaged about 13 ppg in Miami.
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Just found this in the Hickson for Casspi+1st round trade. That draft pick is protected. Lottery protected in 2012 and top 10 protected until 2017.
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i LOVE that trade for the Kings. Hickson was a 14/8 guy for the Cavs with only 28mpg played. Casspi was just the odd man out on a team full of solid swing players. Now just to get anything in return for Donte Greene..
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i LOVE that trade for the Kings. Hickson was a 14/8 guy for the Cavs with only 28mpg played. Casspi was just the odd man out on a team full of solid swing players. Now just to get anything in return for Donte Greene..
I'd take any vet player at any position for Greene to move him. Rumor is we want Honeycutt to get minutes at SF (behind Salmons I guess). I still think we need to add a defensive Center but idk if Dalembert is willing to take less mins and a pay cut to stay. Right now our roster is looking like...

PG Tyreke Evans/Jimmer Fredette
SG Marcus Thornton/Francisco Gacia
SF John Salmons/Tyler Honeycutt
PF JJ Hickson/ Jason Thompson
C DeMarcus Cousins/ Defensive F/A

Very solid young team IMO
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Casspi is a solidish roleplayer and Hickson is really really stupid. Sure he's talented, but I don't think they would go anywhere with him. Plus, he fits right in with the stupidity of Cousins and Evans.

Keep in mind that I am not a fan of Tristan Thompson at all, but whatever.

You can't have a stupid player be your number 1 guy, but Hickson would be a fine #3 and will be in Sacramento.
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Casspi is a solidish roleplayer and Hickson is really really stupid. Sure he's talented, but I don't think they would go anywhere with him. Plus, he fits right in with the stupidity of Cousins and Evans.

Keep in mind that I am not a fan of Tristan Thompson at all, but whatever.
I love the trade for both teams. Casspi is a good player and a better fit on the Cavs than Hickson.
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Kings were going after Tyson Chandler before the lockout very much doubt they intend to start Hickson

Evans Thornton Salmons Cousins Chandler/Dalembert
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Ya I just read about that, very intereating. Idk how Hickson would react to being on tue bench, along with Thompson.
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It sucks that the Kings don't have a true PG. If they could have spent money to get a facilitator, move Reke to the 2, then in crunch time have Reke run the point w/ Thornton out there.
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I think you guys overrate Durant. He's a fantastic scorer but I haven't seen him "carry" the team yet.

Every year the Thunder are pegged as Dark Horses to win the West, they come in and play ok but not great. That shuold all fall on the Superstar's hands.

I do think the Heat would of stood a better chance against Dallas than Lebron though but only because there wouldn't be a power struggle and Durant can conform to second banana better than lebron can.
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I think you guys overrate Durant. He's a fantastic scorer but I haven't seen him "carry" the team yet.

Every year the Thunder are pegged as Dark Horses to win the West, they come in and play ok but not great. That shuold all fall on the Superstar's hands.
This has happened all of two years and he's 22 years old.

I will say that him over Dirk on some lists is pretty confusing.
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This has happened all of two years and he's 22 years old.
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Exactly, people are so impatient now. There are at on of great players in the league, only 1 team can win the championship a year. Honestly for how far the Thunder made it, with Durant and Westbrook both 21 and 22 years old, is a pretty big step up for them. It's not like he's approaching 30 and constantly failing in the 1st round or something.


Eventually it will fall on Durant, as alot of blame already has started in his direction about him fighting to go get the ball and getting off of double teams, etc. But let's give his career sometime to develop before jumping to conclusions, he's really good that we do know, and arguably the best scorer in the game right now.
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Russell Westbrook being a selfish dickhead didn't exactly help Durant when he tried to carry them.
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Exactly, people are so impatient now. There are at on of great players in the league, only 1 team can win the championship a year. Honestly for how far the Thunder made it, with Durant and Westbrook both 21 and 22 years old, is a pretty big step up for them. It's not like he's approaching 30 and constantly failing in the 1st round or something.


Eventually it will fall on Durant, as alot of blame already has started in his direction about him fighting to go get the ball and getting off of double teams, etc. But let's give his career sometime to develop before jumping to conclusions, he's really good that we do know, and arguably the best scorer in the game right now.
But then you're misconstruing the whole argument. The question is the top player RIGHT NOW. You're saying he's only 22 but I never said he's always gonna suck or he'll never be able to carry a team... we're talking about RIGHT NOW. He can have all the potential in the world, but it doesn't make him a top 3 player right now. This is a what have you done for me lately league not a what are you going to do for me in the future league.
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...and now it's this league's turn to butcher itself before its audience with a lockout- only this time this league is more suspectly operated than its Football counterparts, so the body count will probably be more numerous.
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