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Old 12-19-2011, 08:37 AM    (permalink
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Right, but Billups' case is difference because a team put out a bid on him. No one bid for Gilbert Arenas, so is he a FA, free to sign another contract?
Billups will indeed get his $14m regardless ($2m from the Clippers and the remaining $12m from the Knicks).

But like yourself I still haven't heard exactly what happens salary-wise when a player like Arenas is amnestied, clears waivers and then re-signs with a new team. Does he get paid twice or, like Billups, receive his full salary split between Orlando and whatever team he signs for.
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Antonio McDyess is retiring and won't play for the Spurs this season
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Also, Chad Ford is allegedly reporting that Eric Gordon desperately wants out of New Orleans
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That's not very surprising, he looked like he was holding up a prison uniform instead of a Hornets jersey. Gordon and Derrick Rose were on the same AAU team, if they are back together next year, I wouldn't mind.
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Have the Bulls used their amnesty? If not, they can make a move for Gordon in 2013, same with Indiana, Gordon's hometown team. Poor Gordon, it must really suck to be at the brink of the prime of your playing career, then get traded to the freakin Hornets. What a blow.
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Have the Bulls used their amnesty? If not, they can make a move for Gordon in 2013, same with Indiana, Gordon's hometown team. Poor Gordon, it must really suck to be at the brink of the prime of your playing career, then get traded to the freakin Hornets. What a blow.
Not yet, everyone thinks it's going to happen to Boozer within the next 2 years, then they will bring Mirotic over at that time.
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Honestly, I'm all for contraction with four out of Charlotte, New Orleans, Milwaukee, Minnesota, Sacramento while relocating a team like the Clippers to Seattle.

Just taking Charlotte, New Orleans, Milwaukee, and Minnesota and combining their rosters which would look like (debatable):

PG: Brandon Jennings / Rubio
SG: Eric Gordon / Mike Dunleavy (?)
SF: Stephen Jackson (?) / Trevor Ariza
PF: Kevin Love / Carl Landry
C: Andrew Bogut / Okafor

Is that even a #1 seed in either conference?
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Lolwut. The Clippers sold out every single season and half-season ticket package hours after the trade for Paul. And they're in LA, that'd be dumb to move them out. If anything, move the Kings to Seattle to keep them on the West Coast, and contract the rest **** teams.
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It's not happening. It's just a matter of where it's more convenient for the Maloofs and the NBA.
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Per Sam Amick of SI: Kings GM Geoff Petrie releases statement saying contract of F Chuck Hayes voided after he failed physical. Chuck Hayes signed a 4-yr, $21 million deal, but an abnormality was revealed in heart test. Subsequent tests were taken but results were unknown.
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I has a sad. Hope Chuck is alright.
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It's not happening. It's just a matter of where it's more convenient for the Maloofs and the NBA.
Kings to Vegas makes too much sense for everyone involved, but the NBA would never allow it.
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Per Sam Amick of SI: Kings GM Geoff Petrie releases statement saying contract of F Chuck Hayes voided after he failed physical. Chuck Hayes signed a 4-yr, $21 million deal, but an abnormality was revealed in heart test. Subsequent tests were taken but results were unknown.
I've been following this situation all weekend, really sad for Hayes and the Kings team. Hayes was a nice fit into our rotation as a rebounder and defender and now with him gone I think there's a big chance we go after Dalembert.
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Lolwut. The Clippers sold out every single season and half-season ticket package hours after the trade for Paul. And they're in LA, that'd be dumb to move them out. If anything, move the Kings to Seattle to keep them on the West Coast, and contract the rest **** teams.
I know about the Clippers selling out their season and that interest has increased in the Clips since they drafted Blake Griffin and now that they've acquired CP3 but the history of the Clips is as depressing as anything.

I just doubted the long-term (5-10+ years) feasibility of the Clips in LA with the Lakers. However, keeping them in LA then moving the Kings to Seattle is probably the best option.

Consolidate the T-Wolves, Hornets, Bucks, and Bobcats. I'm still not certain if Stern is wanting to give up on New Orleans but with CP3 gone the franchise is likely done for.
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I've been following this situation all weekend, really sad for Hayes and the Kings team. Hayes was a nice fit into our rotation as a rebounder and defender and now with him gone I think there's a big chance we go after Dalembert.
I really hope they don't. Unless it's for the exact same amount of money that Hayes got. **** everything about being locked in to an aging Dalembert for 6+M/year. All he's gonna do is take time away from our young guys.

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Maybe after this season, Stern will finally go crawl into a hole and die. He needs to leave, and maybe after that they can get the team to Vegas. I'd love that.
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Maybe after this season, Stern will finally go crawl into a hole and die. He needs to leave, and maybe after that they can get the team to Vegas. I'd love that.
There needs to be a professional team from either the NFL or NBA in Vegas. I'd love to see that.

Peja Stojakovic will also be retiring this year at the age of 34 according to Marc Stein.

COWER IN FEAR, NBA!!! THE HORNETS JUST SIGNED THIS MEXICAN PHENOM!

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MOAR MEXICANZ PLZ.

That brings the grand total of Mexicans in the NBA to: 2.

**** yeah.
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Honestly, I'm all for contraction with four out of Charlotte, New Orleans, Milwaukee, Minnesota, Sacramento while relocating a team like the Clippers to Seattle.

Just taking Charlotte, New Orleans, Milwaukee, and Minnesota and combining their rosters which would look like (debatable):

PG: Brandon Jennings / Rubio
SG: Eric Gordon / Mike Dunleavy (?)
SF: Stephen Jackson (?) / Trevor Ariza
PF: Kevin Love / Carl Landry
C: Andrew Bogut / Okafor

Is that even a #1 seed in either conference?
Derrick Williams>>>Both of your SF's. And he's not even a true SF.
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Bulls can has Eric Gordon plz. I would fap for years if that happened.

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Old 12-19-2011, 03:19 PM    (permalink
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If Indiana keeps improving, the Pacers are a damn near lock to sign Eric Gordon in 2013.

Also, speaking of contraction, good luck getting a rebound against a front court of Derrick Williams, Kevin Love and Andrew Bogut. That'd be nasty.
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I can't tell if you're being serious, but a contraction wouldn't just mean all those players get merged onto one team. There would be a reallocation draft and they'd get split up around the league.
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I can't tell if you're being serious, but a contraction wouldn't just mean all those players get merged onto one team. There would be a reallocation draft and they'd get split up around the league.
We're just speculating here BB, GEEZ. No one is gonna get contracted, we just had one of the worst handled lockouts in the history of sports mostly because the NBA wanted to keep their small-market teams.
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I know about the Clippers selling out their season and that interest has increased in the Clips since they drafted Blake Griffin and now that they've acquired CP3 but the history of the Clips is as depressing as anything.

I just doubted the long-term (5-10+ years) feasibility of the Clips in LA with the Lakers. However, keeping them in LA then moving the Kings to Seattle is probably the best option.
I think the LA market is strong enough to carry both franchises. Relocating the team wouldn't help unless they stopped doing what it is that made them such a joke to begin with. If anything, the last week has absolutely proved this. A good Clippers team is just as valuable in LA competing against the Lakers as it is in Seattle.
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