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Old 05-07-2012, 09:19 AM    (permalink
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LOL at people who actually think Jordan Hill is a beast. Hill will give you some good games sure, but he will give you more brain fart games then anything else. Thats why he's such a frustrating player to watch cause you know he has some talent.
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LOL at people who actually think Jordan Hill is a beast. Hill will give you some good games sure, but he will give you more brain fart games then anything else. Thats why he's such a frustrating player to watch cause you know he has some talent.
He has a pulse, so he's better than Derek Fisher.
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I'm sure the Lakers don't give a **** about Hill smacking his gf around when he's pulling in 10 boards a game. Nothing more annoying (for the opposing team) than a guy that comes in with 6 fouls to give and out hustles everyone because he simply doesn't give a ****.
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Well, I mean, if you supported and discussed them. Who gives a flying ****. Since I've gained an actual interest in basketball over the last couple of years, they've been my team. It's not like I hoped on to a team that's a perennial champion. Until now. #Knicks
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Did you guys see this yesterday?



Apparently she's a stalker of...


and she walked up to ty lawson saying "where's kenyon?"

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Stein was updating his twitter last night mentioning how she has gotten court orders against her and ****, she's a psycho stalker, no one even knows how she got courtside seats.
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more importantly, who the hell stalks kenyon martin?
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Knicks announce MRI revealed partial tear of patella tendon and complete tears of ACL and MCL for Baron Davis. Out 12 months.
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Seems pretty doubtful he'll come back at all at his age.
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Yeah, he should just retire. Shoulda taken care of your body when it actually mattered, Baron.
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more importantly, who the hell stalks kenyon martin?
I'm more of a Reggie Evans guy myself.
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Pekovic is 6'11 290lbs
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What in the world?
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I ******* hate the Clippers.
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But, why? I've always found it weird that people feel so passionately against the Clippers. I love the Clippers.
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Griffin is 5/11 from the FT line. :(
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Hadadi probably makes more money than his entire country. He should return there and be president. He'd be treated like a god there.
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Hadadi probably makes more money than his entire country. He should return there and be president. He'd be treated like a god there.
I'd much rather be rich in America than worshipped in Iran. Maybe thats just me though.
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But, why? I've always found it weird that people feel so passionately against the Clippers. I love the Clippers.
Blake Griffin and Paul flop more than anyone in the NBA, and Reggie Evans is a dirty bastard. Plus, **** Randy Foye.
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Hadadi probably makes more money than his entire country. He should return there and be president. He'd be treated like a god there.
Iran is not a poor country.
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