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Old 05-23-2012, 02:41 PM    (permalink
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The refs can try to control it all they want. Larry Bird has pretty much gone "Greg Williams" on his Pacers. I bet there is a real bounty out on Lebron and Wade.
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The refs can try to control it all they want. Larry Bird has pretty much gone "Greg Williams" on his Pacers. I bet there is a real bounty out on Lebron and Wade.
I don't think that's what Larry really meant. He's not stupid enough to do something like that.
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I don't think that's what Larry really meant. He's not stupid enough to do something like that.
Obviously exaggerating, but I expect plenty of elbows to fly for sure.
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Obviously exaggerating, but I expect plenty of elbows to fly for sure.
Yea, I'll be sorely disappointed if Indie just rolls over. Don't expect it to happen, will be an interesting game to watch for sure.
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So Tyson Chandler somehow won DPOY but didn't make the all defensive first team.

Also Kobe made the second team over Iggy, and someone gave Carlos Boozer a second place vote.

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So Tyson Chandler somehow won DPOY but didn't make the all defensive first team.

Also Kobe made the second team over Iggy, and someone gave Carlos Boozer a second place vote.

That is the epitome of incompetence lol
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Part of me thinks that Pop was the one to vote for Boozer just to **** with people.
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As far as the series goes its obviously meaningless, but Pittman only getting 3 games is a joke.
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Shaq is going to meet with the Magic about their GM position.....I can't wait to hear D try to spin this.
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Shaq is going to meet with the Magic about their GM position.....I can't wait to hear D try to spin this.
Trying to do worse than Otis Smith is pretty hard, but they sure as hell are working on it.
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Hahahahahaha....this seals it. The NBA is a joke. If Shaq can be seriously considered for a GM position, it's all over. And it's not just Shaq. Mark Jackson got a coaching job why? Steve Kerr should be a GM because?

This type of **** never happens in the NFL. You have to actually demonstrate competency and work your way up. In the NBA, everyone recognizes that personnel moves basically comes down to which city a superstar wants to play for, so it really doesn't matter.
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Edit- nvm, comprehension fail.
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Hahahahahaha....this seals it. The NBA is a joke. If Shaq can be seriously considered for a GM position, it's all over. And it's not just Shaq. Mark Jackson got a coaching job why? Steve Kerr should be a GM because?

This type of **** never happens in the NFL. You have to actually demonstrate competency and work your way up. In the NBA, everyone recognizes that personnel moves basically comes down to which city a superstar wants to play for, so it really doesn't matter.
Kerr would have been an okay GM with a better owner.
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Bird is a legit GM. I'll give Bird props.

But yeah, the NBA is a joke. Bill Simmons' atrocious GM summit was hilarious a couple of years back.
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Bird is a legit GM. I'll give Bird props.

But yeah, the NBA is a joke. Bill Simmons' atrocious GM summit was hilarious a couple of years back.
To be fair, Bird was a coach first and is an insanely intelligent basketball mind. Kevin McHale can be at times, but he also has his issues in that. Shaq is not an insanely intelligent basketball mind, but at least he knows the situation of a big time center leaving Orlando.
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To be fair, Bird was a coach first and is an insanely intelligent basketball mind. Kevin McHale can be at times, but he also has his issues in that. Shaq is not an insanely intelligent basketball mind, but at least he knows the situation of a big time center leaving Orlando.
Yeah that's probably the reason they're going for him, but the odds of Dwight giving a **** are rather low, if existent at all.

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Shaq is going to meet with the Magic about their GM position.....I can't wait to hear D try to spin this.
Apparently he's getting a fresh new cut for his interview too!





Seriously though... there's nothing to spin about it. He's been talking about owning the Magic since he was a player. He loved playing and living in Orlando. He'll NEVER own them though... so this is probably next on his wish list.

My opinion? He won't get it and he doesn't deserve to get it. If he does... I'll brace myself for the worse.
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To be fair, Bird was a coach first and is an insanely intelligent basketball mind. Kevin McHale can be at times, but he also has his issues in that. Shaq is not an insanely intelligent basketball mind, but at least he knows the situation of a big time center leaving Orlando.
I think to be a successful GM in any sport though, you have to understand finances first and foremost. Except baseball since they don't have a cap.

But that's where most GMs get themselves in trouble. They give out bad contracts bc they don't understand the financial implications of giving out bad contracts.

Overpaying for role players is usually what gets most basketall GMs in trouble.
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I think to be a successful GM in any sport though, you have to understand finances first and foremost. Except baseball since they don't have a cap.

But that's where most GMs get themselves in trouble. They give out bad contracts bc they don't understand the financial implications of giving out bad contracts.

Overpaying for role players is usually what gets most basketall GMs in trouble.
If anything, you have to understand finances even more in baseball. I know you're not a baseball fan, but you are way off on that. And overpaying for guys like DeAndre Jordan (ahem) who flash some skills but then regress to hell is a bigger problem.
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The media refuses to remember this. They only cite Granger's techs to prove the Pacers have been instigating. I don't think the Pacers have committed a foul that where they went straight for the player.

Even though Haslem isn't playing, I don't see the Pacers winning. The only way I see it happening is if West takes James into the post and wears him down.
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Hahahahahaha....this seals it. The NBA is a joke. If Shaq can be seriously considered for a GM position, it's all over. And it's not just Shaq. Mark Jackson got a coaching job why? Steve Kerr should be a GM because?

This type of **** never happens in the NFL. You have to actually demonstrate competency and work your way up. In the NBA, everyone recognizes that personnel moves basically comes down to which city a superstar wants to play for, so it really doesn't matter.
The list is crazy long of former NBA players turned GM. Just off the top of my head... Dumars, Isaiah, MJ, Kerr, Paxson, McHale, Bird, Ainge, Mullins, Pat Riley, Jerry West... many of which have been very successful... some not so much. Hard to build a case that it's always a joke though. Shaq's case? Yes, a joke... because all he does is joke. But these other guys have legitimate networks built up by being a player in the league for many years, they have the experience of seeing how the game is played from the player's POV, the know the game inside and out... it's not that bad an idea.

What's the other options? Scouts that work their way up... Analytical stat hogs... Family of the team owner... some dude that got a sports business degree???

Even more crazy long if you're talking about former players going into coaching. I don't even see the issue with that though.

Intersting discussion though.
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Do you think Phil Jackson would be open to being a GM? Sort of the next step of progression for him if he wanted to get back into basketball, imo. He's done it all as a coach already.
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Phil would have a lot of roster input as is since he runs a very specific system which requires a certain type of players for it to run correctly. So he really does not need the title of GM.
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