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Did you miss the part where I said Jrich was an expiring too? He and Vince's contracts were a wash. You wanna give glory to an avg Pietrus contract, go for it. Gortat was rotting on our bench and the 1st was a late first. You have no perspective in your argument.

17M for 22/7/8? Actually, NBA teams do pay out that kind of money for that kind of production. It's not the great, but there are plenty worse. Your whole sense of what's good and bad is completely flawed. You don't build a team by collecting players who put up huge stat lines like a fantasy team. You find peices that fit what you are trying to do, and players who will complement each other the right way. Which JRich, Turk and Clark all do. Good Lord. JRich's outside shot helps draw defenders out, Turk is a good point forward who has good chemistry with Dwight and eases the burden of passing from Jameer, and Clark gives defense, much added youth and some young body to develop.

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first of all we established already that Pietrus' contract was an expiring, so I'm not glorifying it at all. it was a useful trade chip and Phoenix cleared cap room with it. and let's say you cancel out Richardson and Carter, you've traded Gortat (ignore the 1st, too) for Turkoglu. If you want a point forward, there's a much more effective way to get one than giving up a reasonably priced (backup at worst) center.

I obviously understand that you don't build a team like a fantasy team. however, one of the biggest parts of building a team is cap space, something that Hedo's contract is pretty badly handicapping right now.

you just can't convince me that that deal ended up positively for Orlando.

as a side note, I'd be willing to bet that if the Nets end up picking in the top 3, there's a very good chance Dwight gets swapped for Lopez, Brooks, and the #3 pick (and I'd assume more picks). I don't buy for a second that he wants to be there
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first of all we established already that Pietrus' contract was an expiring, so I'm not glorifying it at all. it was a useful trade chip and Phoenix cleared cap room with it. and let's say you cancel out Richardson and Carter, you've traded Gortat (ignore the 1st, too) for Turkoglu. If you want a point forward, there's a much more effective way to get one than giving up a reasonably priced (backup at worst) center.

I obviously understand that you don't build a team like a fantasy team. however, one of the biggest parts of building a team is cap space, something that Hedo's contract is pretty badly handicapping right now.

you just can't convince me that that deal ended up positively for Orlando.

as a side note, I'd be willing to bet that if the Nets end up picking in the top 3, there's a very good chance Dwight gets swapped for Lopez, Brooks, and the #3 pick (and I'd assume more picks). I don't buy for a second that he wants to be there
Perspective is still missing from your POV. The Magic were not in a position looking to rebuild or cut cap. Those pieces weren't as useful to them as they were to the Suns. When the Magic made that trade, they made it with the intent of winning now. They rehauled their roster in an attempt to make a run, knowing full well that Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis weren't gonna take them there. ...and they really weren't as Lewis couldn't even finish out the season (back injury) and the Magic already knew Carter didn't fit in (he also didn't finish the season healthy). So your whole view is skewed. They swapped Carter for a younger and better shooter in JRich, who they ended up resigning on an affordable deal. They got a point forward in Hedo, who is more useful to them than other teams. ...and they resigned Clark who is a young developmental project who brings defense. The Magic didn't get what they wanted out of Gilbert Arenas, but they were able to Amnesty him, so he doesn't count against the cap. From the PHX trade, they still have all 3 players on the roster that they traded for and they all have an important role for the team. The trade worked out for both teams.

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So last night my friends and I decided to pick a team of All-time basketball players along with a sixth man. Every player was picked in their prime.
*We did this while we were drunk and it was done off memory. Smartphones weren't allowed. All players would be in their prime.

Team 1:
Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Kevin Durant
Karl Malone
Steve Kerr
6th man: Wilt Chamberlain

Team 2:
LeBron James
"Dr. J" Julius Erving
Jason Kidd
Shaquille O'Neil
John Stockton
6th man: Ray Allen

Team 3:
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Kobe Bryant
Bill Russell
Bob Cousey
6th man: Hakeem Olajuwan

Team 4:
Charles Barkley
Moses Malone
Scottie Pippen
Clyde Drexler
Isaiah Thomas
6th man: Kevin McHale

Which one is best (would be the other teams)?
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Might want to see Team 1 for a much more ridiculous selection.

Looking at the teams, team 4 is easily the best put together in terms of fit. If Team 1 had a real PG instead of Steve Kerr, they'd win probably.
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lmao Jason Kidd as a 2? lmao Jason Kidd being drafted at all? lmao your lmao'ing Kidd because Nash wasn't picked even though Steve Kerr was?

and I'd also go with team 3.
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I would take Nash over Kidd certainly but no Oscar Robertson?

and yes team 3 wins, if team 1 took anyone decent instead of Kerr they could be close
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How are you bitching about Kidd when Steve Kerr got taken? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
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Kidd is one of the most overrated players of all time and is playing SG in this
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Team 3 should start Dream at the 4 and move Cousy to the bench and they'd be even better.
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Steve Kerr is SG and he is playing PG in this.

Kerr should be replaced by the Glove or Kevin Johnson or Walt Frazier.
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Maybe even Magic off the bench because of his versatility
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Did team 4 pick after the other teams were done picking???
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Did team 4 pick after the other teams were done picking???
Managed to put together a team where everyone fits perfectly, so I don't see the problem. 1 is killed by Steve Kerr, 2 is killed by the lack of power forward, 3 has the most talent as a team but might be hard to get together, while 4 just flows.
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Managed to put together a team where everyone fits perfectly, so I don't see the problem. 1 is killed by Steve Kerr, 2 is killed by the lack of power forward, 3 has the most talent as a team but might be hard to get together, while 4 just flows.
Those sort of drafts are never about how they would fit together. LOL.

Mildly surprised Tim Duncan didn't get in there.
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It's hard to believe that Evan Turner, Hasheem Thabeet were 2nd overall picks when you see Durant.
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Iggy is the new King of stupid ass lobs.
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I'm torn in this game....I want Philly to win over Boston, but I think the ECF will be a total rout if it's Heat v Sixers.
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