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Old 08-21-2012, 06:29 PM    (permalink
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I'm gonna say Phoenix just based on the fact that no one will want to sign with Orlando
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Has Phoenix ever given out a max contract???
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If you read any of that post then you should have taken from it that I do not see CP3 going back to the Hornets. Why would he go back to a team that traded him? It makes no sense. Yes, there are some Hornets bloggers & fans that think that, I'm just not one of them.
You brought it up!
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The Suns lost Nash and the Magic lost Howard. Both teams are in a process of rebuilding.

Which team will be better in 3 years?

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http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm
Eh, kinda hard to tell, but in a gun-to-my-head scenario I'd go with the Magic especially if Harkless, Vucevic, and Nicholson develop into something close to their ceiling. If you get clones of David West, Danny Granger, and Mehmet Okur then that's great but if you get something close to Craig Brackins, Marvin Williams, and Vlad Radmonovic then you're gonna suck.
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I'd say that Magic just because of being in Florida and they are going to suck for a year or 2 so they will get a few good picks (hopefully), on top of the ability to spend some cash.
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CFB and NFL seasons are around the corner and I'm happy as can be. BUT, watching this gives me chills. I can't wait til the NBA season either.

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Over the next few years, i think it'll easily be the Suns, but i feel they will toil in mediocrity, similar to where the Rockets have been in recent years. The Magic have a good chance of landing a franchise type player in the next few years due to their **** team, so past three years ill say Magic, anything less i think it's pretty clear the Suns are better.
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Any team owned by Sarver is not a team I would want to be a fun of. Eventually he will find a way to ruin everything.
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Any team owned by Sarver is not a team I would want to be a fun of. Eventually he will find a way to ruin everything.
To be fair, all he's really accused of is trading draft picks for cash and refusing to trade his major meal ticket for sentimental reasons.

He's still not a good owner though.
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Has Phoenix ever given out a max contract???
I know of 4 off the top of my head Nash, Amar'e, Marion & Gordon
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Not like he's Mike Brown.
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ESPN's projected western conference standings.

They have the Kings finishing last which I disagree with.

The Kings are certainly better than the Suns, Hornets, Rockets and Trailblazers.

Cousins - Hayes
Thompson - Robinson
Evans - Johnson
Thornton - Salmons
Thomas - Brooks - Fredette

The Kings can put out a better line-up than any of the afore mentioned teams can. And they sure as hell could challenge the Jazz and Warriors sufficiently enough. The Kings have talent.
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ESPN's projected western conference standings.

They have the Kings finishing last which I disagree with.

The Kings are certainly better than the Suns, Hornets, Rockets and Trailblazers.

Cousins - Hayes
Thompson - Robinson
Evans - Johnson
Thornton - Salmons
Thomas - Brooks - Fredette

The Kings can put out a better line-up than any of the afore mentioned teams can. And they sure as hell could challenge the Jazz and Warriors sufficiently enough. The Kings have talent.
I see where you're going with this and I certainly agree they aren't the worst team in the West.

However, a TON is going to depend upon which Tyreke Evans shows up this year.

If Evans can be electric like he was in 2009-10, this is a team with 2 very good players and a few key starters.

However, if Evans shows up and plays as a high-usage, low-efficiency wing who saps 25% of the team's possessions, they will be bottom 3 in the West yet again.

There's a ton of potential on this team outside of Cousins and Evans. If the dice fall right, the team could be anywhere between 7 and 9 in the West. If Robinson plays like he did in VSL, Evans plays like the last 2 years, IT regresses due to size and Johnson doesn't pan out at SF, it will be another very long season.

The Kings deserve a little more respect than they are getting from the national media, but let's wait to put them in with the likes of the Jazz.

And let's b honest, no one knows what to expect from NO, Portland or Houston right now. Those 3 teams are so young they are all a crapshoot.
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speaking of the kings, the nets signed donte greene. i dont think i've ever been more "meh" on a signing
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I see where you're going with this and I certainly agree they aren't the worst team in the West.

However, a TON is going to depend upon which Tyreke Evans shows up this year.

If Evans can be electric like he was in 2009-10, this is a team with 2 very good players and a few key starters.

However, if Evans shows up and plays as a high-usage, low-efficiency wing who saps 25% of the team's possessions, they will be bottom 3 in the West yet again.

There's a ton of potential on this team outside of Cousins and Evans. If the dice fall right, the team could be anywhere between 7 and 9 in the West. If Robinson plays like he did in VSL, Evans plays like the last 2 years, IT regresses due to size and Johnson doesn't pan out at SF, it will be another very long season.

The Kings deserve a little more respect than they are getting from the national media, but let's wait to put them in with the likes of the Jazz.

And let's b honest, no one knows what to expect from NO, Portland or Houston right now. Those 3 teams are so young they are all a crapshoot.
The Hornets are not a crapshoot, they're just terrible. And the first step towards improving is getting rid of Tyreke.
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I haven't followed Tyreke's career. Why does he get such a bad rap here?
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Because he sucks.
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It has a lot to do with Evans' ball-hogging style of play and unwillingness to transition to small forward.
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This can't be true can it?

http://www.news10.net/news/article/2...ng-to-Virginia

I hope it's not true. It makes no sense.
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Virginia of all places?
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His ball dominance holds back the development of guys like Cousins, and he can't shoot for ****. Combine that with uselessness on D...
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His ball dominance holds back the development of guys like Cousins, and he can't shoot for ****. Combine that with uselessness on D...
Cousins is a black hole himself.
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Lololol!!!

Yes, the Kings will move from a top 20 media market to a media market not in the top 40. I'm sure the Board of Governors will approve of this.

I really really hope this is the type of stupid move that has the Linhs mortgaging future media rights for upfront money to pay their debts ad gets them canned like the McCourts.

Also, roflcopter at the source article that states the Maloofs are some sort of business tycoons. Their information is about a decade old. They don't own the Palms anymore (nor is it successful as they had to sell all but 2% ownership to stave off bankruptcy), they lost their beer distributors hip and their media/skate company is an absolute failure.

I swear that info must have been directly fromthe desk of their spinmaster.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me the Maloofs just McCourt'd themselves.

Stern is just waiting for his smoking gun to get these fools out of the league. You don't cross Stern.
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Cousins is a black hole himself.
Cousins is actually efficient though. Stellar PER for a 2nd year center with nothing around him.
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