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Old 05-05-2013, 09:11 PM    (permalink
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5 guys said that 5 players were better than KD this year? Jesus who are these morons.
The same guys who gave David Lee and Joakim Noah MVP votes, or maybe the idiot who voted Jordan Crawford instead of Jamal Crawford for 6th man of the year.
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When I placed my NBA MVP vote a few weeks ago, I knew I would be in the minority. I knew LeBron James was the prohibitive favorite to win his fourth award because he unquestionably is the best player in the game.

I voted for Carmelo Anthony based on his importance to the New York Knicks, who, if you havenít been paying attention the past decade, have failed to be relevant.

When the voting was announced Sunday afternoon, I was flabbergasted to learn I was the lone voter among 121 to not give LeBron a first-place vote, truly believing Anthony, Kevin Durant, Chris Paul, and perhaps even Kobe Bryant would snag a first-place vote or two.
Source: http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...fqM/story.html

It was Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe. So it wasn't the New York media, it was Boston's fault this time.
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Why is this such a big deal? When you have that many writers voting, there's bound to be at least 1 idiot. Especially when the award is open to interpretation.
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Why is this such a big deal? When you have that many writers voting, there's bound to be at least 1 idiot. Especially when the award is open to interpretation.
LeBron James, by every reasonable measurement and argument, was undisputedly the most valuable player in the NBA this season.
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Knicks in 5. Still not worried. The refs gave them that game.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:26 AM    (permalink
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I find it hilarious that we're making such a big deal about 1 reporter having a different vote btw. Totally ridiculous. Like who cares? Everyone knows LeBron was the MVP, 1 vote isn't the end of the world.
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I think those guys should have at least some accountability, why even give them a privelage to vote? A lot of his "reasoning" was pretty stupid anyway. Talking about Miami's supporting cast to the point where according to him Lebron never deserves a MVP because of Wade, Bosh, and Spoelstra. It's also pretty pathetic that it wasn't for Durant, it was Melo. The guy who jacks up a ton of shots every night, doesn't pass, doesn't play defense, doesn't get his team involve, is somehow more valuable then the guy who guards every position, was a darkhorse to be defensive player of the year, scores, passes, rebounds, had a 27 game winning streak and nearly won 70 games.


You could always come up with an off the wall vote just to be different and find a lazy way of justifying it, just stupid to me.
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Eh, as long as you have a voting process, you're gonna have this. A vote is an opinion. And not everyone is gonna have the same opinion. If they did, then there would be no reason to have a voting process.

*shrug*

You can't police the voting process.
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Eh, as long as you have a voting process, you're gonna have this. A vote is an opinion. And not everyone is gonna have the same opinion. If they did, then there would be no reason to have a voting process.

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You can't police the voting process.
Yes, but they should just make the voting open. Make sure everyone sees your name next to your vote.
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Knicks in 5. Still not worried. The refs gave them that game.
The game that had 21 fouls against each team means the refs gave it to one side over the other.
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Yes, but they should just make the voting open. Make sure everyone sees your name next to your vote.
I think that would make it worse. Bc now you'll open up agendas for writers who want their name to get publicity.

Which would lead to more outliers in the voting process.
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Because those people couldn't just say their vote anyway? Like what just happened?
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What Alex said. And of course there's the fact that there's never been a unanimous MVP in the NBA and Lebron by all accounts should have been the first. This one vote screws that up, and it's made worse by it being for Carmelo.
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The game that had 21 fouls against each team means the refs gave it to one side over the other.
Had to be the officials. After all the referees were the ones chucking ill-advised shots ... never-mind that was Melo and JR.



Anytime you lose the rebound battle by double digits you are fighting an EXTREMELY uphill battle. Melo/JR are not efficient shooters so winning or at least keeping the rebound battle even goes a long way towards victory.

Melo's defense on West also played a toll on him considering the amount of inside work he had to do. Unless Hibbert's form suffers I don't buy the Knicks in 5 or 6. This looks like another LONG series if the Knicks can figure out a way to even up the rebounding battle.


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What Alex said. And of course there's the fact that there's never been a unanimous MVP in the NBA and Lebron by all accounts should have been the first. This one vote screws that up, and it's made worse by it being for Carmelo.
No offense but Shaq had a MUCH more dominating season and *should* have been in the first in '99. That season someone decided A.I. deserved a vote out of nowhere. Anytime a human element is involved it happens.

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I think that would make it worse. Bc now you'll open up agendas for writers who want their name to get publicity.

Which would lead to more outliers in the voting process.
They are all writers! If they have an agenda they can write about it as much as they want.
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No offense but Shaq had a MUCH more dominating season and *should* have been in the first in '99. That season someone decided A.I. deserved a vote out of nowhere. Anytime a human element is involved it happens.
Now you're bringing a whole other discussion into the fray, one i'm not making. Yes Shaq should have been the first, but since he wasn't, Lebron definitely should have been.
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When Melo wins the championship this year, I'm gonna print out an efficiency chart and just take the biggest dump on it.
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I'd do the same thing, but unfortunately that's not gonna happen. At this point i doubt they get past the Pacers in a respectable series. There's a reason Indiana was the best defensive team in the league, and it doesn't help that JR is in full ****** mode right now.
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Woodson is a tool, that's the problem. We need to go big vs Indy, yet he didn't make the adjustment and went small, and we clearly got beat up, out rebounded and outmuscled bc of it.

We can't go small vs Indy. And this series is all about Hibbert too. If Good Hibbert shows up, it's going 7. If bad Hibbert shows up, it's going 5.

Yesterday Good Hibbert showed up. His problem is he doesn't play like that every game. Bc if he did, the Pacers would be the 2 seed and give Miami a serious run for their money.

But he just doesn't play at that level consistently enough.
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Woodson is a tool, that's the problem. We need to go big vs Indy, yet he didn't make the adjustment and went small, and we clearly got beat up, out rebounded and outmuscled bc of it.

We can't go small vs Indy. And this series is all about Hibbert too. If Good Hibbert shows up, it's going 7. If bad Hibbert shows up, it's going 5.

Yesterday Good Hibbert showed up. His problem is he doesn't play like that every game. Bc if he did, the Pacers would be the 2 seed and give Miami a serious run for their money.

But he just doesn't play at that level consistently enough.

Knicks aren't winning anything in 5, you should just let that go now. They aren't beating the Pacers 4 in a row, this series had the looks of a 6-7 games from the get go, Melo would have to go for 40 every night for that to happen and that's not happening vs a good defensive team.
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Knicks aren't winning anything in 5, you should just let that go now. They aren't beating the Pacers 4 in a row, this series had the looks of a 6-7 games from the get go, Melo would have to go for 40 every night for that to happen and that's not happening vs a good defensive team.
It's still possible. Memphis went down 2 and won 4 straight. Who's to say we can't win 4 straight?

I'll start to worry if we lose game 2. Right now, I'm not worried at all.
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I'm betting on 3 things:

1. Hibbert is not going to play out of his mind the entire series.

2. Their offense won't drop 100 on us again bc Woodson will go big on them.

3. Melo will bounce back.

That's all we need to win this series. I'm not worried.
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