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View Poll Results: Who will win the NBA Championship in 2013?
Miami Heat 15 26.79%
Miami Heat 3 5.36%
Miami Heat 31 55.36%
Miami Heat 6 10.71%
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Old 05-17-2013, 02:53 PM    (permalink
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Uhhh, that's a terrible reason considering we have a much better team right now than what Durant had. Plus he's going up against a MUCH better team.

Talk to me when Melo averages over 50% shooting once in his career. There's literally nothing Melo can do better than Durant.

Scoring = Durant
Rebounding = Durant
Passing = Durant
Defense = Durant (probably not as good as a post/on-ball defender but Melo isn't stellar either. Plus Durant is a much better shot blocker and generates steals at a higher rate)

Durant is a better shooter. Better from three. Better from the free throw line. Better at getting to the free throw line. Etc. etc.

Oh, and Durant has also actually made it to the finals...unlike Melo.

So stop being such a troll.
Wrong. Melo doesn't have a better team than Durant even without Westbrook.

And Melo has been playing most of the postseason with a bad shoulder. Yet no one gives him a pass for it. Like that doesn't hurt his efficiency or anything.

Durant played like garbage the last 2 games vs Memphis. The Knicks would not lose to Memphis in 5 games. And Melo is the main reason for that.

Durant is overrated. He's a finesse player who relies on jump shots too much, who can't play physical basketball.
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Wade didn't win a championship as batman though. Shaq was getting old, slow and fat, but he was still a monster. He sure as **** wasn't Wade's Robin.
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Wade didn't win a championship as batman though. Shaq was getting old, slow and fat, but he was still a monster. He sure as **** wasn't Wade's Robin.
Wade was Batman. You know this.

Shaq wasn't ****, but he wasn't a "monster". More like a hungry Polar bear.

Heat don't win if Wade doesn't do what he did in that series and playoffs as a whole.
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Looking at that list once again makes me so bummed King blew out his knee right as he was settling into being the NBA's scoring champion and a simply unstoppable 3.

As for Buckets v Shump, I can't argue that Buckets is more refined offensively and he is a little bigger, but Shump has the handles to do so much more than he's shown, especially if his 3 ball remains a weapon.
Agreed. We haven't seen enough of Jimmy with the ball in his hands, but he seems to be much better off the ball and probably won't ever be someone that creates with the ball in his hands.

I'd like to see how Shump improves his shooting. If he can refine his mid/long range game, he can be very, very good.
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If Wade was Batman, Shaq was Superman and those heat where the justice league. That's literally the only way you can call Wade the Batman of that team.
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If Wade was Batman, why couldn't he do **** without Shaq until LeBron came by?

Wade was never batman. He was like 1A of the Ambiguously *** Duo.
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If Wade was Batman, Shaq was Superman and those heat where the justice league. That's literally the only way you can call Wade the Batman of that team.
Wade's averages in 2006 Finals: 34PPG, 7.8RPG, 3.8 APG

Shaq? 13 and 10 and .8 blocks


Wade was Batman with the cape on inside of the damn Bat Mobile. (1 word or 2 words?)
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Agreed. We haven't seen enough of Jimmy with the ball in his hands, but he seems to be much better off the ball and probably won't ever be someone that creates with the ball in his hands.

I'd like to see how Shump improves his shooting. If he can refine his mid/long range game, he can be very, very good.
Yeah, both are awesome, along with Avery Bradley their my favorite young wing defenders. But what's so weird about how Shump has developed to me is that coming outta Georgia Tech everyone was worried he'd keep shooting too much after he had to play the point with nobody else on his team which left Shump to score all of the points. If he keeps developing his shooting and that makes him more confident going to the hoop the kid could be Spreewell incarnate.
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Wade was Batman with the cape on inside of the damn Bat Mobile. (1 word or 2 words?)
That season didn't just start in the finals. For all of Wade's heroics once they got there, Shaq played as big a part in getting them there.
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That season didn't just start in the finals. For all of Wade's heroics once they got there, Shaq played as big a part in getting them there.
Nice addition to the theme we got going here.


As for the season, Shaq played 58 games to DWades's 75.'

Dwade 27PPG 5.8RPG 6.7APG

Shaq 20PPG, 9.2 RPG, 1.8 BPG


Dwade = Batman/Bruce Wayne.
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Yea, putting Hakeem over Oscar.

On Wade vs Pippen, Wade is the better offensive player (much more skilled, and measures out far better when you look at advanced stats), while Pippen is the better defensive player (by a lot. Wade is good, but Pip might be the best perimeter defender ever). Both have finished top five in MVP voting twice (and top ten five times each). Pip also has more rings, but I just couldn't get over the 06 finals. Best finals performance of all time, and basically won that title by himself. Basically the only thing that really separated them for me.

And about that Heat team, I'm hesitant to say either person was Robin, really. Wade was easily the best player on the team, but it was still Shaq's team. Sort of like the Lakers in the mid 80s. Magic was by far their best player, but Kareem was still THE MAN on those squads. Both coached by Pat Riley, funny enough.
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I like describing it as the Justice League, that is probably the best comparison you could get.

The problem with Pippen is that he really only had 2 years of being "the man", and while he was incredible in both of those years (2nd player ever to lead a team in scoring, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks) he never really had any defining moment, or at least no positive ones.

But ya, his defense is probably better than any part of Wade's game ever will be, and that's not meant as a knock on Wade's game at all.
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Pippen's defense was elite.
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Wade was never batman. He was like 1A of the Ambiguously *** Duo.
I'm like 97% sure you didn't watch the '06 playoffs.
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Wrong. Melo doesn't have a better team than Durant even without Westbrook.

And Melo has been playing most of the postseason with a bad shoulder. Yet no one gives him a pass for it. Like that doesn't hurt his efficiency or anything.

Durant played like garbage the last 2 games vs Memphis. The Knicks would not lose to Memphis in 5 games. And Melo is the main reason for that.

Durant is overrated. He's a finesse player who relies on jump shots too much, who can't play physical basketball.
Melo has shot under 40% for the playoff series. Melo is sucking gargantuan dong during the playoffs. Be quiet.

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Lamenci you were the only one stupid enough to take the bait.
Sorry, I guess just because as a fellow Knicks fan I feel like I have to stand up to his stupidity and trolling.
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You're right. They'd lose in four games.
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Wrong. Melo doesn't have a better team than Durant even without Westbrook.

And Melo has been playing most of the postseason with a bad shoulder. Yet no one gives him a pass for it. Like that doesn't hurt his efficiency or anything.

Durant played like garbage the last 2 games vs Memphis. The Knicks would not lose to Memphis in 5 games. And Melo is the main reason for that.

Durant is overrated. He's a finesse player who relies on jump shots too much, who can't play physical basketball.
For one, there's no chance in hell that the Knicks beat the Grizzlies. They're the best defensive team in basketball, and they shifted two of the games best defensive players (Gasol and Allen) onto Durant. Combine that with a horrifyingly awful gameplan by Brooks, and it was a recipe for failure.

Also, you can talk about Durant being a jump shooter all you want, but you would be incredibly wrong. He's a better passer, rebounder and defender than Melo to start. Secondly, Durant is one of the best finishers in the game and is excellent at getting to the line. Melo is a lousy finisher and isn't nearly as good at getting free throw attempts. As for the rest...

3-9 feet? Durant is better
10-15 feet? Durant is better
16-23 feet? Durant is better

I can keep going.
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Where does Chris Paul play his next contract?
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In Dallas with his BFF Dwight.
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