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Old 06-12-2013, 05:09 PM    (permalink
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I honestly don't think its close, people get way to carried away with ring count, who cares if it's 4 or 5, Duncan is just a far superior player, the ******'s career average is 20 11 3 2 1

along with being one of the better post defenders ever
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Forget the silly LeBron-Kobe debates. If the Spurs win, does that put Duncan ahead of Kobe?
but why? they'd have the same number of rings but kobe would have brought his team to two more finals.

He was runner up for the scoring title last year and 2nd runner up this year.

better head to head record.

not to mention so far in this series Duncan has been the third or fourth most important player on the team.
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I love Timmy just as much as anyone (except when he is destroying the Heat), but I really don't think it is so clear cut for him over Kobe.
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I don't think it is clear cut either, but I agree with yo. I would take Timmy over Kobe regardless of how this series ends up.
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I love Timmy just as much as anyone (except when he is destroying the Heat), but I really don't think it is so clear cut for him over Kobe.
Not clear cut at all to me. I see clear arguments on both sides. They're definitely 1 and 2 from their generation.

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but why? they'd have the same number of rings but kobe would have brought his team to two more finals.

He was runner up for the scoring title last year and 2nd runner up this year.

better head to head record.

not to mention so far in this series Duncan has been the third or fourth most important player on the team.

Duncan was the best player on every one of his four finals teams (I know Parker won one of those finals MVP's, Duncan was still the best player on the team though), Kobe was only the best on two of his.

Kobe's defense has been living on reputation for the better part of a decade too, Duncan is still more than solid there and was elite until very recently.
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In his prime, Kobe's scoring was elite and he was one of the best ever on that side of the floor. I think it's pretty even, i wouldn't mind either one.
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In his prime, Kobe's scoring was elite and he was one of the best ever on that side of the floor. I think it's pretty even, i wouldn't mind either one.
Kobe, Duncan, C-Webb, Cousins in what order?!

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Stupid question. Greg Monroe >>>
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I was way off.
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so doc rivers is pretty much done in boston. Clippers already said if he becomes available he'd be their first priority.

Guess that would push Shaw to Boston. I think that'd be a good fit for him since there's no pressure to win right away like there would be with the clippers.

also, if that happens, I guess you can see Paul Pierce in a clippers uniform next season too.
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I'm starting to think Brian Shaw is just the worst interviewer ever.

His interview was today and they hired a guy with zero coaching experience, like, less than an hour later.
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I think Doc might be waiting to see if the Heat job opens up.........
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Duncan > Shaq > KG > LeBron > Dirk > Kobe for the naughts. Deal with it.
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Duncan ruled. and rules.

and i'm just so...i don't even know what to think about the Kidd hiring. Like actually confused
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Hey, it's sorta kinda halfway like what the Warriors did with Mark Jackson, and that's worked so far.
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Yeah I don't know if I should be happy or sad for you. I just have no ******* idea how it happened and if it was a good hire. The only way I can articulate this is like a teenage girl: like, what?
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I don't think it was a good move. Jackson had A LOT of time to learn when he was in the booth, getting to pick the brains of coaches and learning how to coach from there.

Kidd hasn't. And I don't care what anyone says, just because you're a great leader, smart, etc doesn't mean you can just jump into being a coach. I think this is going to crash and burn for the Nets.

This is why the NBA has a lot of crappy teams. They do dumb things with coaching and GMs with little to no experience.
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It's worth a shot, it beats the hell out of retreads or George Karl.
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this is exactly how I feel.

I mean, it hurts with Shaw RIGHT there, too.

I see the upside. I sure as hell see the negatives. It's just so...i don't even know.

Typical Brooklyn fashion. Make a splash, I guess. Looking for the brand
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yes and no. the raves from him by Paul George and other pacers players are hard to ignore though.

Whatever, hopefully Kidd frees MarShon. And be ready to the Tyshawn Taylor revolution next year
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How do you even know that? Is it that clear what each individual assistant coach is even responsible for?
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How do you even know that? Is it that clear what each individual assistant coach is even responsible for?
Because I like to say what I want to say. Either way, I don't think giving Kidd a shot is the worst idea in the world.
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Liberius Booker ftw

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