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Old 06-13-2013, 01:54 PM    (permalink
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How far as Deron fallen in terms of top PG rankings now for everyone? Things have changed in the last 2 years, curious where people are putting him now with so many good PG's now.
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How far as Deron fallen in terms of top PG rankings now for everyone? Things have changed in the last 2 years, curious where people are putting him now with so many good PG's now.
For me personally, I got:

1. CP3
2. Parker
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6. Deron Williams

I excluded D-Rose on purpose until he is back.
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Nervous about tonight - I'm hoping LeBron comes out with the Boston game 6 mentality.

They are saying Spo might be inserting Miller into the starting lineup.
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I haven't really been paying attention, but has Haslem or Bosh been guarding Duncan mostly? **** it, just put Lebron on him.
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I haven't really been paying attention, but has Haslem or Bosh been guarding Duncan mostly? **** it, just put Lebron on him.
Yeah, Haslem has been starting out on Duncan and actually has held his own but he is only playing around 10 minutes because Spo doesn't like the floor spacing he gives on offense.

So they are thinking Haslem will just be taken out of the rotation. We won't know officially if he decides to do it until 8:55 cause that's how Spo roles.
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I haven't really been paying attention, but has Haslem or Bosh been guarding Duncan mostly? **** it, just put Lebron on him.
I actually really like this. Puts San Antonio in a very spot if they come out with Duncan and Splitter and Miami doesn't really lose anything in the defensive end. We'll see how it plays out.
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LeBron on Duncan would be so awesome to see but I really don't want him to have to waste his energy doing that. Want a 35/15/10 game from LeBron tonight, need him to go off on offense with Wade playing at 18%.
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LeBron on Duncan would be so awesome to see but I really don't want him to have to waste his energy doing that. Want a 35/15/10 game from LeBron tonight, need him to go off on offense with Wade playing at 18%.
I know he likes trying to get the feel of the game and get some of the other guys involved but tonight he needs to come out aggressive. Especially with his recent shooting struggles.
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I'll be shocked if LeBron isn't involved in 75% of the shots in the first quarter.

Also, curious if it's Wade they're gonna sit and not Haslem if Miller starts. That would be interesting.
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LeBron on Duncan would be so awesome to see but I really don't want him to have to waste his energy doing that. Want a 35/15/10 game from LeBron tonight, need him to go off on offense with Wade playing at 18%.
He'll may spend more energy on the defensive end which may fatigue him a bit more but presumably he should have better looks on the outside, especially if he can draw Timmay or Tiago out on the perimeter.

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I do think Wade might be best suited as a 6th man at this point but I don't think Wade's ego could handle that and they might worry about it messing with the team dynamic.
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I would say D-Wade would not take kindly to that unfortunately.
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I don't know how I feel about this. Our problem has been defense. And Mike Miller looks lost on that side of the ball.....I know that this is our best offensive lineup prolly, but it hurts so badly on defense. Its what the Spurs do to u tho...
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Well if you look back at a lot of those 3's last game, it was Miller struggling through the screens to get back to the shooter. That was something Battier was always great at so maybe Spo doesn't want to take Miller out of the rotation obviously with his shooting, but wants to reinsert Battier into the rotation to try to counter their outside shooting.

I don't fault Miller though because he is trying his ass off and does attack the boards as well on the defensive side.
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Well if its between Miller and Battier, I am glad he is going to Miller. Battier is useless.
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Miami should come out with a lineup that provides them with the most defensively. When their defense is suffocating it creates the most opportunities for them and a strong defensive effort is how they've responded to losses against Indiana and San Antonio. Mike Miller provides more offensively but he's equally as much of a defensive liability.
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Well if its between Miller and Battier, I am glad he is going to Miller. Battier is useless.
Oh no, Miller needs to be out there. I'm saying Battier might be put back in rotation and Haslem out.
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I'm expecting Lebron to turn into a monster we haven't seen before tonight being beat like that and being down 2-1.
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Miami should come out with a lineup that provides them with the most defensively. When their defense is suffocating it creates the most opportunities for them and a strong defensive effort is how they've responded to losses against Indiana and San Antonio. Mike Miller provides more offensively but he's equally as much of a defensive liability.
I've been seeing a lot of this on the twatter but I don't know if I agree. Firstly, I like Haslem but Mike Miller is a better perimeter defender than UD and LeBron is a better post defender than Haslem so I don't think you're losing much if any on the defensive end. Miami switches a ton so defined man-to-man matchups don't matter that much to them as much. Miller is 6'8 and can contest those outside shots and is more apt to create turnovers than Haslem so what you lose with what Haslem brings to the table, you gain in other areas. Also, and this is probably more important is that with LeBron covering either Tiago or Duncan, you know have LeBron blitzing the ball-handler on those high pick and rolls which which obviously creates a pretty damn tough task for San Antonio, especially a guy like Gary Neal if he gets significant minutes.

So even if Miami's defense can play at close to the same level defensively with Miller as they do with Haslem, there's no reason having Miller out with that group shouldn't create a lot of problem for the Spurs and give Miami a big offensive boost.
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Miller and Battier on the court at the same time??
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Mike Miller isn't a good perimeter defender at all though. Yes he has the length at 6'8" but with his injuries over the last couple years, it's hindered his ability to guard the smaller, quicker players that he's assigned. Miller struggled to work through screens in Game 3, and San Antonio will be sure to exploit him tonight when he's on the floor. I would be really hesitant to have LeBron defend either Duncan or Splitter when you consider how well Parker, Green and Leonard have played. I know Miami switches plenty on screens, but I wouldn't use that as enough of a rationale to have James defending one of the bigs.

If I am Miami, I would start Andersen over Haslem to try to matchup better defensively. Plus it could help avoid the flatness they came out with in Game 3.
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I wouldn't be opposed to Anderson starting, but I think they want to keep his energy coming off the bench.
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Going to watch this game in seclusion in case a meltdown occurs.....

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